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...Truth?
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RE: ...Truth?
(June 28, 2017 at 6:31 pm)ManofYesterday Wrote: Under atheism, the brain is the product of cold and mindless natural processes and there is no mind driving them. How atheists can believe their brain is reliable for ascertaining truth while also believing the above is mind boggling. Often atheists respond to this charge by saying our brains are good at ascertaining truth because we wouldn't have survived if they weren't. That may sound like a good response at first, but it isn't. False beliefs can increase survivability. Evolution may give me the false belief that the boogeyman is inside every McDonald's Big Mac, causing me to stay away from Big Macs. This would save me from harming my health by eating Big Macs, increasing my survivability, but through the power of a false belief. This is a comedic example, but there are multitudes of other examples you could conjure up that are more serious. Even if evolution alone gave people true beliefs when it came to things like "don't go near that animal or it'll eat you," or "don't touch fire because it harms you," what about more abstract things like mathematics or philosophy? Does being good at math or metaphysics increase or decrease survivability? Probably not or probably by not much. So maybe our mind is good for basic things like "fire is hot" but it isn't good for complex ideas.

However, under something like Christianity, the brain is the product of an omniscient, omnipotent, and all-good immaterial mind. So the Christian has good reason to believe their brains are good at ascertaining truth.

god is all good, pa-lease. Read much? If the product of god they should be pretty good at killin and rapin also.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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...Truth? - by Definitely Disillusioned - June 28, 2017 at 3:20 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Alex K - June 28, 2017 at 3:37 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by vorlon13 - June 28, 2017 at 3:39 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Definitely Disillusioned - June 28, 2017 at 3:40 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Alex K - June 28, 2017 at 3:48 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Mister Agenda - June 30, 2017 at 2:40 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by vorlon13 - June 28, 2017 at 3:50 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Alex K - June 28, 2017 at 3:52 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by pocaracas - June 28, 2017 at 3:51 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Whateverist - June 28, 2017 at 5:58 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by pocaracas - June 28, 2017 at 6:12 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by brewer - June 28, 2017 at 5:17 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Alex K - June 28, 2017 at 5:21 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Definitely Disillusioned - June 28, 2017 at 5:24 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by brewer - June 28, 2017 at 5:56 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by pocaracas - June 28, 2017 at 6:02 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Alex K - June 28, 2017 at 5:36 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Definitely Disillusioned - June 28, 2017 at 5:47 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by The Industrial Atheist - June 30, 2017 at 7:26 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Alex K - June 28, 2017 at 5:49 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Definitely Disillusioned - June 28, 2017 at 5:55 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Alex K - June 28, 2017 at 6:28 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by LadyForCamus - June 28, 2017 at 8:23 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by henryp - June 28, 2017 at 8:33 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Definitely Disillusioned - June 28, 2017 at 6:01 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by brewer - June 28, 2017 at 6:28 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Whateverist - June 28, 2017 at 6:34 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by brewer - June 28, 2017 at 6:37 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Whateverist - June 28, 2017 at 6:38 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Definitely Disillusioned - June 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Whateverist - June 28, 2017 at 6:27 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by ManofYesterday - June 28, 2017 at 6:31 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Alex K - June 28, 2017 at 6:37 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by ManofYesterday - June 28, 2017 at 6:54 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Whateverist - June 28, 2017 at 7:01 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by ManofYesterday - June 28, 2017 at 7:04 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by brewer - June 28, 2017 at 7:10 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by ManofYesterday - June 28, 2017 at 7:18 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by brewer - June 28, 2017 at 7:23 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by brewer - June 28, 2017 at 7:19 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by ManofYesterday - June 28, 2017 at 7:24 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by brewer - June 28, 2017 at 7:28 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by ManofYesterday - June 28, 2017 at 7:33 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by brewer - June 28, 2017 at 7:46 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by ManofYesterday - June 28, 2017 at 7:59 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by brewer - June 28, 2017 at 8:58 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by ManofYesterday - June 29, 2017 at 12:41 am
RE: ...Truth? - by Ravenshire - June 30, 2017 at 12:41 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by brewer - June 28, 2017 at 6:51 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Minimalist - June 28, 2017 at 6:40 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Alex K - June 28, 2017 at 6:41 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Whateverist - June 28, 2017 at 6:43 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Whateverist - June 28, 2017 at 6:53 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Whateverist - June 28, 2017 at 7:07 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Definitely Disillusioned - June 28, 2017 at 7:08 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by pocaracas - June 28, 2017 at 7:14 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Whateverist - June 28, 2017 at 7:16 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by brewer - June 28, 2017 at 7:16 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Alex K - June 28, 2017 at 7:10 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by ManofYesterday - June 28, 2017 at 7:21 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Alex K - June 28, 2017 at 7:17 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by bennyboy - June 28, 2017 at 7:18 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by henryp - June 28, 2017 at 8:07 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by LadyForCamus - June 28, 2017 at 8:47 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by henryp - June 28, 2017 at 8:50 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by LadyForCamus - June 28, 2017 at 8:53 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Court Jester - June 28, 2017 at 10:36 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by ignoramus - June 28, 2017 at 11:47 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by The Valkyrie - June 28, 2017 at 11:54 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by ignoramus - June 29, 2017 at 12:08 am
RE: ...Truth? - by The Valkyrie - June 29, 2017 at 12:12 am
RE: ...Truth? - by DogmaticDownSouth - June 29, 2017 at 11:29 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Whateverist - June 30, 2017 at 12:39 am
RE: ...Truth? - by DogmaticDownSouth - June 30, 2017 at 1:09 am
RE: ...Truth? - by Amarok - June 30, 2017 at 1:13 am
RE: ...Truth? - by Whateverist - June 30, 2017 at 2:00 am
RE: ...Truth? - by Amarok - June 30, 2017 at 2:15 am
RE: ...Truth? - by ManofYesterday - June 30, 2017 at 5:17 am
RE: ...Truth? - by bennyboy - June 30, 2017 at 9:20 am
RE: ...Truth? - by LadyForCamus - June 30, 2017 at 9:42 am
RE: ...Truth? - by Whateverist - June 30, 2017 at 5:07 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by KerimF - June 30, 2017 at 5:21 am
RE: ...Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - June 30, 2017 at 9:21 am
RE: ...Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - June 30, 2017 at 9:46 am
RE: ...Truth? - by ignoramus - June 30, 2017 at 9:52 am
RE: ...Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - June 30, 2017 at 9:56 am
RE: ...Truth? - by ignoramus - June 30, 2017 at 10:02 am
RE: ...Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - June 30, 2017 at 10:04 am
RE: ...Truth? - by Amarok - June 30, 2017 at 12:30 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Amarok - June 30, 2017 at 12:51 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Edwardo Piet - June 30, 2017 at 3:44 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Mister Agenda - June 30, 2017 at 1:12 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Astonished - June 30, 2017 at 2:33 pm
RE: ...Truth? - by Amarok - June 30, 2017 at 3:32 pm

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