RE: ...Truth?
June 28, 2017 at 8:58 pm
(This post was last modified: June 28, 2017 at 9:05 pm by brewer.)
(June 28, 2017 at 7:59 pm)ManofYesterday Wrote:(June 28, 2017 at 7:46 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: bold mine
That they did it in the name if god. The book makes it pretty clear that was the minions motivation.
What point?
A person can eat pizza, kill people, or rape in the name of anything. Again, what's your point? Is that it?
Yeah you want to interact with my original point now or are you done?
Sure they can, but your's is directed by divine message. I doubt I'd put much stock in the other motivations either.
OK, copy/paste for your point (I think)
Quote:Under atheism, the brain is the product of cold and mindless natural processes and there is no mind driving them. How atheists can believe their brain is reliable for ascertaining truth while also believing the above is mind boggling. Often atheists respond to this charge by saying our brains are good at ascertaining truth because we wouldn't have survived if they weren't. That may sound like a good response at first, but it isn't. False beliefs can increase survivability. Evolution may give me the false belief that the boogeyman is inside every McDonald's Big Mac, causing me to stay away from Big Macs. This would save me from harming my health by eating Big Macs, increasing my survivability, but through the power of a false belief. This is a comedic example, but there are multitudes of other examples you could conjure up that are more serious. Even if evolution alone gave people true beliefs when it came to things like "don't go near that animal or it'll eat you," or "don't touch fire because it harms you," what about more abstract things like mathematics or philosophy? Does being good at math or metaphysics increase or decrease survivability? Probably not or probably by not much. So maybe our mind is good for basic things like "fire is hot" but it isn't good for complex ideas.
However, under something like Christianity, the brain is the product of an omniscient, omnipotent, and all-good immaterial mind. So the Christian has good reason to believe their brains are good at ascertaining truth.
Atheism and evolution have little to do with each other. Your position that the brain is the product of cold and mindless is unfounded, but natural process you got right. Part of that natural process is development of a social animal that is anything but cold and mindless. Your evolution/belief/food analogy is also unfounded. What does evolution have to do with math or philosophy. Math can increase your surviveability. I'm sure other people are applying it in your everyday life and you don't even realize it (designers of cars is an example).
Exactly what complex ideas?
There was not a whole lot here to rebut.
(June 28, 2017 at 7:21 pm)ManofYesterday Wrote:
(June 28, 2017 at 7:19 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: OK, so you just didn't comprehend the killin and rapin part. Good for you Christian human adult male who is white and straight.
So not only are you unable to engage people civilly and rationally, you also seem to hate straight white men. Interesting.
Is this forum like the Mississippi of the atheist community or something? Lmao. Are you guys going to run me out of your community with shotguns and pitchforks? Bahahaha. Looks like you already did it with the other fellow.
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If you don't think that's civil and rational don't put it in your website or tell us about your website. No hate, just quoting you.
Makes me wonder what Cheetos is?
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
