(June 29, 2017 at 4:04 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(June 27, 2017 at 4:06 pm)Lek Wrote: If you read the preceding and following verses you will discover that he is referring to people who already refuse to believe God. It says that he will cause these people to believe and follow the man of lawlessness. It's not that the Spirit is lying to them, but rather that God is withholding the Spirit from them so that they will naturally be deceived by the man of lawlessness.
I've read the surrounding verses, tyvm, and 2 Thess. 2:11-12 isn't out of context, as much as you'd like it to be. Read it again. 'God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie' clearly implies that if God hadn't stepped in, then these people might have changed their minds and repented. In other words, the HS is not always to be trusted.
Further, there's nothing in the verse about God withholding anything. 'Send' is an active verb. God performed an action which deluded people.
Why do your lot spend so much energy telling people that the Bible doesn't mean what it says?
Boru
Yes. As with hardening Pharaoh's heart at the time of Moses, there have been occasions when God has intervened in the thoughts and actions of some who were already purposely unbelievers. His promise is to reveal himself to those who seek him with a true heart.
