RE: Is the Holy Spirit Misleading You?
June 30, 2017 at 5:46 pm
(This post was last modified: June 30, 2017 at 5:51 pm by Lek.)
(June 30, 2017 at 4:28 pm)Jehanne Wrote: You make an excellent point -- Over time, there is virtually nothing that Christians have agreed upon!
We all believe that Jesus is God the Son and that salvation is through him. There's much essential stuff we agree on, but I can't walk into a church in which I agree with everyone on all christian doctrine. I believe we'll continue to be learning throughout eternity.
(June 30, 2017 at 5:08 pm)Astonished Wrote:(June 30, 2017 at 3:27 pm)Lek Wrote: The significance of it isn't in its history or morality, but in that it it leads us to salvation through Jesus Christ. That's what the whole bible leads up to.
But you're assuming your conclusion. If the book was flawless, you'd have something to stand on. It's not flawless, in any way. Any position on which you try to defend it has failed and always will. So to grasp onto one claim in the book, and not even a coincidentally good claim (for which there is no corroborating evidence, and which is based on an entirely immoral framework set up by a tyrannical monster), well, that's fucking nuts. If the entire document that outlines whatever it is you think you need to know is thoroughly debunked and thoroughly useless, you don't get to suddenly say it has any value. This is an obstinate position and has no ability to convince a person of its truth or validity. Why don't you stop making things up, go out and find the truth if you're so motivated to be right no matter what, and use that to show us? At least then if you're right you'll be being honest about it.
It doesn't have to be flawless, but it needs to lead me to the truth that it is purposed for. You trust science for answers and it surely isn't flawless. If you debunk the bible for me then maybe I'll go somewhere else for my truth about God.