(June 28, 2017 at 5:47 pm)Definitely Disillusioned Wrote: People are stupid in any worldview. Just because some theists say climate change is false or don't hold to basic teachings of their worldview doesn't make their worldview inherently false, just as people who say "ha ha ha god is stupid lol" don't automatically make atheism ludicrous. Please engage with me on the field that I'm using. I don't give a darn about what people do. We're talking about ideas, not lives, and pure philosophy, not whether or not people practice it correctly.
The search for truth is a necessary part of the theist worldview, as well as it being a natural progression. Again, I'm talking about logic here, not the failed attempts of people to live up to their worldviews. In a super simple overview of this belief, theists assume that god forms the basis of truth. Theism demands that the theist believes in god as good, a desire to pursue god logically follows, and honestly it's not very hard from there to reason your way on to the value of truth.
That's all I'm going to say on this subject. The idea that true theism does not necessarily follow into a love for creation, knowledge, and finding truth about it is one that I didn't even expect anyone would bat an eye at. Philosophically speaking, that's basic stuff about theism. Please focus more on the atheism section of this or PM me if you want to continue that discussion, as I feel we're getting a bit off track here.
If god does not exist they are not pursuing the truth. Perhaps they don't really want to pursue the truth if the truth shows that he doesn't exist.
Reading from an ancient book that has dubious proof of authenticity or praying to an invisible god you can't hear responding seems like a strange way to get to the truth to me.
I believe that science is the best way to get to the truth. Scientists can make mistakes and things can be revised. That's what makes it so good as a way to get to the truth. Maybe it's not really intended to %100 understand what it explains. But I'll take it over the unfounded ancient claims of religion.
In my experience Christianity gives you orders about how to live a good life, but you get no help in doing so and many of those rules are impossible to follow and go against the very nature of being human.
