Moral Nihilism

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I don't think you are right ... do you have any evidence to support the claim?

From wikipedia is there a good explannation on conscience on a bio-psychological view:

Conscience can prompt different people in quite different directions, depending on their beliefs, suggesting that while the capacity for conscience is probably genetically determined, its subject matter is probably learned, or imprinted, like language, as part of a culture. For instance, one person may feel a moral duty to go to war, while another feels a moral duty to avoid war under any circumstances.

Numerous case studies of brain damage have shown that damage to specific areas of the brain (e.g. the anterior prefrontal cortex) results in the reduction or elimination of inhibitions, with a corresponding radical change in behaviour patterns. When the damage occurs to adults, they may still be able to perform moral reasoning; but when it occurs to children, they may never develop that ability

There's more about in this link: http://www.visioncircle.org/archive/004733.html

agree I find the idea abhorrent but I do not agree it is inbuilt ... I concede there may be (probably is) a pack instinct to protect our own children I do not necessarily believe it extends to all children without societal factors. The Nazi's killed Jewish children as easily as they killed the old and frail ... that rather implies that humans feel nothing specifically for children of another "pack" or "tribe" without societal influence. Cannibalism has been a component of several cultures and has been noted to occur many times in adverse situations.

In cultrues were cannbalism have strong connection with religion. Not because it's something that we find tasty.

We have an instinct that tells us to not go the neighbour and eat him when we feel hungry, if we don't have anything in the fridge.

Seeing a children suffer is something causes everyone to get emtional effected. Since we have emphaty do we feel sorry for people and specially children, since it as you ay built in to protect children. Since we are diffrent from most animals can our brain feel sorry for other outside our "tribe". It's an effect of our advance emphatical feelings. Which have heped humans, since our instinct tells us to defend the weak no matter what that humans come from.

The Nazis idea is an affect of an psycholigcal term called masshysteria and brainwash. Those who killed children where hating them becuase they where let to belive that they where evil.

I don't agree, I believe pretty much all our morality is learned. Individual do not possess morality, morality is a societal concept ... individuals (as you note) possess a conscience which allows them to evaluate their own and others behaviour against accepted societal morals. There have been cultures where it is acceptable to brutalise many, to enslave others, to kill young and so on and all without apparent remorse ... that goes against what you are claiming.

Some moral is a social concept. However many are what I call built in. We have barriers that stop us from doing things. Those soceities where bruatlise, enslage and kill young have often have strong connection with religion who have justified this.

We find it morally wrong to kill our own parents, since it something that our brain tells us pretty much. We cry when someone we love dies, we wouldn't kill someone we like for an instant. We have emotions that control what we can do and not. Psychopaths don't have that and are pretty much evil and lack a sence of moral.

A guy here died when he was run over by train. The reason was becasue someone where on the railroad track and he threw himself and pushed that person away. He was self killed. I think it was girl he saved that got paralyzed when seeing the train and couldn't move out of the way. The reason he did it wasn't because the society says it's good at helping eachother, it was in impulse he got to help someone which he did. However he was run over by train and died.

That's a helluva assertion ... justify it.

If we hadn't had emotions a conscience, would we have no problem killing another humans and don't feel a thing about it. We wouldn't care if our relatives died or someone we would love and we would have no problem killing our own children. We would be like mantis without our emtions, our brain and conscience.

I don't think there is necessarily an instinctive component to morality ... I'm not discounting it as a possibility but I would want to see more evidence before I accept it.

Understand that. I will try to do that. But just as a short and easy example: Dolphins for an example have saved people from drowning, which have been reported. They haven't done this because they have a moral created by there society that telled them to do that. It was an instinct for them to help someone they saw were in danger.