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We are God's perfect imperfection.
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RE: We are God's perfect imperfection.
(July 3, 2017 at 8:20 am)Little Rik Wrote:
(July 3, 2017 at 8:11 am)YouOnlyLiveTwice Wrote: I think it can be fairly posited that it is equally arrogant to assume that we mere mortals have any legitimate claim to knowing the nature or even the presence, of an entity such as God, the creator of something so vast and complex as the universe so as to make us insignificant specks in the grand scheme of things. Especially in a way that allows us to assume his existence without the need for objective physical evidence.

If God is too great and "above us" to ever stoop down to our level, based on what can we know his existence to begin with? How do we know he has any of the properties we claim him to have if his very nature places him beyond our comprehension?


A tiny little seed has got 100% of the property that the big tree has yet he can not understand the tree.

Yet of course but give time and one day it will and he too will be a tree.  Lightbulb

An interesting little analogy, but it still doesn't answer my question. How do we, the seed, have any knowledge as to the existence of the God, the tree, if we cannot understand it? You see, in our world, a tree's existence can be proven through objective, empirical evidence. It's not quite the same with God, whose existence is seemingly confirmed only through internal revelations that have no logical or empirical consistency and absolutely no objectivity whatsoever — something I would go so far as to say qualifies as a delusion.

If your argument is that we lack the senses or "capacity" to comprehend God's existence, as the seed does with the absence of perceptual organs, then again I ask, how do we (the seed) have any certain or even probable knowledge as to the existence of God (the tree), let alone the capacity to make claims as to his properties?

To make the claim (especially with certainty) that God is beyond our understanding necessitates a degree of understanding of God's nature in of itself — which is a massive contradiction. Unless, of course, you propose to possess a privileged or enlightened sense of understanding that the rest of us has been denied? If so, then that contradicts other oft-claimed properties of God — namely that he loves us all and made us all equal. If that were the case, nobody would possess any special or privileged ability to understand God's nature, or even understand our inability to do so. So no matter where you try to go with this, you're going to end up contradicting God's oft-attributed qualities. Why? Because they're logical and philosophical contradictions in of themselves, and have always been.
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We are God's perfect imperfection. - by ignoramus - June 25, 2017 at 2:39 am
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Little Rik - June 25, 2017 at 7:23 am
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Astonished - June 25, 2017 at 6:56 pm
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Little Rik - June 26, 2017 at 10:14 am
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Astonished - June 26, 2017 at 10:23 am
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Little Rik - June 26, 2017 at 11:32 am
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Astonished - June 26, 2017 at 9:13 pm
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Little Rik - June 27, 2017 at 10:09 am
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Astonished - June 27, 2017 at 10:38 am
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Little Rik - June 28, 2017 at 9:04 am
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Astonished - June 28, 2017 at 9:17 am
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Little Rik - June 28, 2017 at 10:30 am
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Astonished - June 28, 2017 at 3:07 pm
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Little Rik - June 29, 2017 at 10:41 am
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Astonished - June 29, 2017 at 11:37 pm
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Little Rik - June 30, 2017 at 10:40 am
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Astonished - June 30, 2017 at 1:57 pm
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Little Rik - July 1, 2017 at 6:19 am
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by bennyboy - July 1, 2017 at 7:40 am
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Astonished - July 1, 2017 at 12:17 pm
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Little Rik - July 2, 2017 at 8:27 am
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Astonished - July 2, 2017 at 9:32 am
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Little Rik - July 2, 2017 at 9:41 am
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Nay_Sayer - July 4, 2017 at 1:53 am
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Astonished - July 2, 2017 at 2:57 pm
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Astonished - July 2, 2017 at 9:42 pm
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Little Rik - July 3, 2017 at 3:09 am
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Succubus - July 3, 2017 at 7:47 am
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Little Rik - July 3, 2017 at 8:13 am
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Succubus - July 3, 2017 at 9:09 am
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Astonished - July 4, 2017 at 12:34 am
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Little Rik - July 4, 2017 at 9:43 am
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Little Rik - July 3, 2017 at 8:20 am
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by YouOnlyLiveTwice - July 3, 2017 at 8:29 am
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Little Rik - July 4, 2017 at 9:30 am
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Little Rik - July 5, 2017 at 8:41 am
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Incognito - July 5, 2017 at 7:47 pm
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Little Rik - July 9, 2017 at 10:30 am
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Astonished - July 9, 2017 at 12:20 pm
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by ignoramus - July 3, 2017 at 7:05 pm
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by ignoramus - July 5, 2017 at 4:49 am
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Astonished - July 5, 2017 at 7:41 pm
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by ignoramus - July 5, 2017 at 5:18 am
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection. - by Nay_Sayer - July 5, 2017 at 4:26 pm

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