RE: Is the Holy Spirit Misleading You?
July 3, 2017 at 12:31 pm
(This post was last modified: July 3, 2017 at 12:38 pm by Lek.)
(July 3, 2017 at 7:23 am)Jehanne Wrote: John is a Gospel that few scholars trust for any historical authenticity, and your example is one of many reasons why the Jesus Seminar coded the Gospel of John with nothing but black beads (not a single word from the mouth of the historical Jesus.) John and his community were simply not interested in the historical Jesus, but in theologizing, turning Jesus from an apocalyptic prophet into the Son of God. They were no different than the Gnostics, except for the fact that they were on the other end of the Jesus spectrum; whereas, the Gnostics saw Jesus in almost spiritual terms, John's community saw him in almost physical, yet divine, terms. Eventually, the two memes were forced to merge and you got the physical/spiritual God-man.
The Jesus seminar began with the assumption that Jesus isn't who the bible says he is. They dismissed 2,000 years of christian scholarship right off the bat. They already assumed that the message of orthodox christianity was untrue. I've always wondered how they knew what words Jesus did and didn't say. John didn't see Jesus as almost physical, but a totally physical man and also God. John was totally different than the gnostics.
(July 2, 2017 at 9:49 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: So you have a bunch of Greeks who worship at the Passover. They spoke to the Apostles requesting a meeting with Yeshua. If the Apostles and Jesus couldn't speak and understand the Greek dialect then the Greeks must have been fluent in Hebrew or Aramaic.
This is a mystery indeed.
Give your audience some credit for smarts. Someone in the group knew both languages or they found someone who did to interpret for them.