(July 4, 2017 at 11:37 pm)Aliza Wrote: Wow. My first real experience with atheists was online over at TTA, but what I learned there is that many atheists dislike being generalized and being told what they believe by people who don't speak for them.
Atheist is generally just an insufficient label. It doesn't tell us enough about a person to make any follow-up judgments whatsoever regarding what their beliefs are. It's literally nothing more than opening a cage door. Are they going to close it back on themselves again? Close it behind them as they walk away from the cage? Stay in the cage but leave the door open? Invite others into the cage or scare others away from it? None of those answers are forthcoming under the mere label atheist.
A rational skeptic is an atheist with a tendency to disregard other woo claims along with god concepts, generally, and that's largely what we appear to have on this site, from what I've observed. Show us the proof or shut the fuck up, is the typical attitude and it's useful in the face of the kind of dipshittitude we see from the likes of GC, LR and Lek to name a few. That's the label I identify with and yes, it does entail a dislike of being told what to do because we are, at least for the most part, unwilling to suspend our critical faculties and settle for easy answers. We tend to form alliances selectively rather than just putting aside differences when those differences are irreconcilable or will bring any benefit to a side we know will only do wrong with it, if we're also secular humanists with a consequence-oriented basis for morality.
I think far too many have a 'live and let live' attitude, however. There are far too many on the other side who aren't happy with that and there must be a counter to that. We're already the most reviled minority on earth, so if we're not doing whatever we can to increase our numbers and prevent theirs from increasing (which, fortunately, looks like is going well, with millennials being less religious than previous generations, and unbelief being the fastest growing demographic from what statistics I've been reading) then I honestly don't know what else we can do.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.