RE: Considering atheism [Currently Christian]
July 8, 2017 at 11:39 am
(This post was last modified: July 8, 2017 at 11:40 am by Simon Moon.)
Welcome to the forum!
First of all, let me make a comment on the title of you OP.
It really does not make sense to state that you are 'considering atheism'. Theism is the psychological state of being convinced that a god or gods exist, atheism is simply not being convinced of that proposition. It is really not a choice.
Everyone has beliefs, atheists and scientists alike. 'Belief' is simply the psychological state in being convinced that a premise or proposition is true. There are good reasons for being convinced; evidence, reasoned argument, and valid and sound logic, and there are bad reasons for being convinced; faith (belief without evidence, or in spite of evidence to the contrary), fallacious reasoning, or because the belief makes you feel good.
Also, being an atheist does not in any way preclude 'standing for something'. I stand for plenty. All my atheism tells you about me, is that I do not believe in the existence of any gods. It does not tell you what I believe or stand for.
As well as being an atheist, I am also a secular humanist. My secular humanism tells you a lot more about me than my atheism.
First of all, let me make a comment on the title of you OP.
It really does not make sense to state that you are 'considering atheism'. Theism is the psychological state of being convinced that a god or gods exist, atheism is simply not being convinced of that proposition. It is really not a choice.
(July 8, 2017 at 1:13 am)MellisaClarke Wrote: For the past two years, I have been dating an atheist fellow. (odd isn't it?)
And this is because he is somehow attractive.
He is the one who has been introducing me to memes and other content about atheism.
I have been honestly trying to see his side, as he attended church with me once. (although he says he despises religion/church)
Below is what got me thinking:
First, on youtube I saw a youtube video about a strange clip. (from a movie called Lost Skeleton of Cadavra),.
Now that I hunted it down in my watch history, I can now share clearly with you guys that it was about a guy who said he was a scientist.
He said he didn't believe in anything:
Although it was a movie, I wondered how someone with any accomplishment, could not stand for something.
The phrase "stand for nothing fall for anything kept on popping up in mind".
I skipped, and forgot about the post.
After that, on facebook, later I saw yet another meme.
I immediately remembered the movie clip above, and my world began to spin, as I made some connections with the clip and the meme below.
I saved this one, the first atheist related thing I ever saved:
I think the meme seemed to be talking about faith/belief, and that the very concept of belief (not just religious belief) essentially opposed science.
When I read the first short paragraph, I quickly thought the meme was idiotic, because there can also be scientific belief, which is separate from religious belief.
But then, the last paragraph is the paragraph that grabbed me. I was a Christian, and I appreciated science as one of God's best gift to man.
I was slowly viewing the world differently now, and not only am I considering atheism, but I also thinking about staying away from the very concept of belief too.
This has been a year now in the making, and I am comfortable enough to talk about this with others online.
My boyfriend is somewhat proud of me too.
Everyone has beliefs, atheists and scientists alike. 'Belief' is simply the psychological state in being convinced that a premise or proposition is true. There are good reasons for being convinced; evidence, reasoned argument, and valid and sound logic, and there are bad reasons for being convinced; faith (belief without evidence, or in spite of evidence to the contrary), fallacious reasoning, or because the belief makes you feel good.
Also, being an atheist does not in any way preclude 'standing for something'. I stand for plenty. All my atheism tells you about me, is that I do not believe in the existence of any gods. It does not tell you what I believe or stand for.
As well as being an atheist, I am also a secular humanist. My secular humanism tells you a lot more about me than my atheism.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.