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A Christian's Impartial View of Atheism?
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A Christian's Impartial View of Atheism?
IN CONSIDERATION OF ATHEISM


It may well be that God, if he exists, when making his plan for man, decided all that could be known of him, was an understanding that God has a fifty fifty chance of being.


If there is a God who is using planning above our understanding, he allowed in his plan, the freedom to develop logical conclusions based on our ability to reason. Reason makes demand that both sides of any argument be considered, especially when it concerns the Godhead; to learn the difference between good and evil; right and wrong; God or no God!


Common sense allows that both sides can be argued equally. Influences caused by the limiting factors of individual subjectivity, make us try to present arguments for or against God, as though one side held more than fifty percent of the evidence, when in fact, it is impossible to gain evidence that would outweigh either side. It is only when subjectivity replaces reason, that we fall short of understanding. Lacking any evidence to the contrary, it becomes just as unreasonable to conclude that there is no God, as to conclude there is. Argument either way can achieve no more than an exercise between Egos. Ego, unfortunately, is the part of us that does not require evidence when presenting what it calls ‘sound doctrine.’ Reason alone presents no disagreement with status quo [50/50], it is when our inherent ignorance is bolstered by the Ego’s insistence, that we mistakenly accept mere opinion as ‘evidence.’


This premise implies that no one person or group knows any more about God than another. When a man ‘teaches’ about God, he tries only to convince himself. There is no superiority among men when it comes to God’s existence, except that which the ignorance in man allows. Any claim of Godly understanding can only be attributed to an attempt to tell of something that fills the void faith is to fill.


This means that the least you can learn about God is equal to the sum of what all others have learned; the highest product of reasoning that can exist without evidence. The acceptance of this gives us the ability to set aside our subjectivity and weigh our conclusions tempered with sound consideration. Wisdom does truly begin and end with admitted ignorance.


It remains then; if a man reaches the highest state of learning, me assuming that to be man’s purpose, it will be to the crux that comes into view when a man knows both the lack of evidence proving God, and the hope on which all faiths are based. The definition of hope defines the full human containment of God’s potential. We can ascend to no higher a conclusion than the middle line that separates that which is known and, that which may be God-ness. Having weighed that which is known and that which is not known, a man’s faith will have the purity of being based solely on Hope; a faith that is founded on the humility that exists before all that we don’t know. This allows man to express his faith, in a life that shows benefit from what he does not know! His faith exists in an innocence, shown by a life led in both humility and confidence!


Lest someone should say that fifty fifty is being lukewarm, the ‘fifty-fifty view’ is no less devout to the existence of God than those who allow the excesses of Ego that cause men to preen in their faiths. An Atheist can also find himself in the same position, if, ignoring the equal lack of evidence concerning ‘no God’, he bounds in his belief to excess, likewise making claim to knowledge that exists out of his sphere of learning. He [the Atheist] negates the human spirit of hope in exchange for nothing.


Hope adds to life its own germination. Allowed to grow in a world that has no Godliness [evidenced] of its own, it forms in a man the expression of Good, made manifest and seen, thereby creating a witness as from a Godlike influence!


The strength of one's hope/faith will determine whether the man accepts death carrying with him a Boldness formed in the transcendental fires of hope. Or, there is nothing! In which case, the Boldness so prepared, neither helps nor hinders. Unless you count it of value that a man lives as though worthy of having a God, with he, being representative of the only Godliness to exist, human goodness!


Do you think this is a fair view of Atheism by a Christian?
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RE: A Christian's Impartial View of Atheism?
It's customary to start with an introduction.

But you seem familiar so perhaps that's not necessary.
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RE: A Christian's Impartial View of Atheism?
The Abrahamic god can't exist as defined because it has too many contradictions.

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RE: A Christian's Impartial View of Atheism?
(September 1, 2024 at 3:11 pm)Mortalsfool Wrote: IN CONSIDERATION OF ATHEISM



Do you think this is a fair view of Atheism by a Christian?

No. Atheism is a simple statement: "I don't believe in your (or any) gawd."

Some take an affirmative approach and claim there is no gawd, most don't.

Atheism really is that simple. Your wall of text that will get skimmed or outright ignored by most has nothing to do with atheism and is simply a bad 50/50 bullshit argument that tries to manufacture doubt about reality.

@arewethereyet: Yeah, something smells. Like a dirty sock.
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RE: A Christian's Impartial View of Atheism?
A lot of claims with absolutely nothing to recommend them. Any moron can make a bunch of claims.
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RE: A Christian's Impartial View of Atheism?
I think it's 'a' christian view. What more do you want?
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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RE: A Christian's Impartial View of Atheism?
(September 1, 2024 at 3:26 pm)Ravenshire Wrote:
(September 1, 2024 at 3:11 pm)Mortalsfool Wrote: IN CONSIDERATION OF ATHEISM



Do you think this is a fair view of Atheism by a Christian?

No. Atheism is a simple statement: "I don't believe in your (or any) gawd."

Some take an affirmative approach and claim there is no gawd, most don't.

Atheism really is that simple. Your wall of text that will get skimmed or outright ignored by most has nothing to do with atheism and is simply a bad 50/50 bullshit argument that tries to manufacture doubt about reality.

@arewethereyet: Yeah, something smells. Like a dirty sock.

Pretty sure I know who it is.  Alas, innocent until proven guilty.
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TL;DR (but I didn’t really have to).

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RE: A Christian's Impartial View of Atheism?
(September 1, 2024 at 3:17 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: It's customary to start with an introduction.  

But you seem familiar so perhaps that's not necessary.

I'm just an old man, 87, with pretty solid views, I think!
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RE: A Christian's Impartial View of Atheism?
(September 1, 2024 at 3:32 pm)Mortalsfool Wrote:
(September 1, 2024 at 3:17 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: It's customary to start with an introduction.  

But you seem familiar so perhaps that's not necessary.

I'm just an old man, 87, with pretty solid views, I think!

If that was your best effort, thanks for playing.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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