RE: Moral Nihilism
May 7, 2009 at 4:29 am
(This post was last modified: May 7, 2009 at 4:34 am by Giff.)
Ethics is a teaching of moral, which a soceity have. Moral is you personal view of right and wrong, which can be affected of what the ethics of the society is.
People feel an intinct that it's wrong to kill another human. We feel an instinct that it's wrong when children get abused and so on.
Other ethics that we should not do crminal things like donwloading music for free at pirate bay and such. If our intincts and emotions don't match what ethics the society have, then that ethic will change or not work. The nazis didn't work because of that. Soviet didn't last and other similar societies.
Alla people have the same basic moral principles. Then it can have alot of variations. In some its ethical wrong if people don't wear cloths on there upper bodies, in other's is it natural for them. In some is it ethical wrong with a man having a lot of wifes, in some is it not.
But all have the same principle that killing another innocent human being, is wrong and punishble. Also children and women in nearly all cultures need to be protected. It's a natural instinct that we have.
You are right Kyu that ethics is created by society, and most are based on what till make the society work. But many fundamental are based on what we allready know is right and wrong. That's why we have empathy, which can't be taught. But some moral values things are taught by your parents and the society.
If it involves something that can hurt or affect another human in a negative way then we will feel that such thing is wrong, because of our empathy. But downloading music which don't effect someone in that way, must be taught to be morally wrong and so on.
Like I said we are not a bunch of psycopaths. Soceity don't need to tells us that raping someone wil probably be traumatic for that person. A person with a normal brain and empathy will understand that allready.
To say ethics and moral is just an invention is therefore false. Even though it in some ways are right.
People feel an intinct that it's wrong to kill another human. We feel an instinct that it's wrong when children get abused and so on.
Other ethics that we should not do crminal things like donwloading music for free at pirate bay and such. If our intincts and emotions don't match what ethics the society have, then that ethic will change or not work. The nazis didn't work because of that. Soviet didn't last and other similar societies.
Alla people have the same basic moral principles. Then it can have alot of variations. In some its ethical wrong if people don't wear cloths on there upper bodies, in other's is it natural for them. In some is it ethical wrong with a man having a lot of wifes, in some is it not.
But all have the same principle that killing another innocent human being, is wrong and punishble. Also children and women in nearly all cultures need to be protected. It's a natural instinct that we have.
You are right Kyu that ethics is created by society, and most are based on what till make the society work. But many fundamental are based on what we allready know is right and wrong. That's why we have empathy, which can't be taught. But some moral values things are taught by your parents and the society.
If it involves something that can hurt or affect another human in a negative way then we will feel that such thing is wrong, because of our empathy. But downloading music which don't effect someone in that way, must be taught to be morally wrong and so on.
Like I said we are not a bunch of psycopaths. Soceity don't need to tells us that raping someone wil probably be traumatic for that person. A person with a normal brain and empathy will understand that allready.
To say ethics and moral is just an invention is therefore false. Even though it in some ways are right.
- Science is not trying to create an answer like religion, it tries to find an answer.
