(July 9, 2017 at 12:22 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:(July 9, 2017 at 2:47 am)pocaracas Wrote: The natural world that science probes is reality. Anything off limits to science is not real.
I have to disagree with the bolded part above.
It is possible that there is something off limits to science, that actually may exist. But since there is no way to test and verify it, there is no warrant to believe it is real.
The non testable and non verifiable are indistinguishable from non existence, but they still might exist.
Agreed, if it's beyond the ability of science to test or verify, it's utterly irrelevant and no one can pretend they know anything about it because the only mechanism which we know of to go about finding out things is unable to be utilized. It's when people pretend to know it exists, know its attributes, and yet can't say HOW they know this, that we've got problems. Unfortunately that's exactly how everyone behaves when it comes to that type of unknown woo.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.