RE: Jesus already came (at lest for some)
July 18, 2017 at 11:32 am
(This post was last modified: July 18, 2017 at 11:34 am by Fake Messiah.)
(July 18, 2017 at 9:23 am)Godscreated Wrote: Christ will not have to be announced by anything other than a trumpet blast at His second coming. When He does come everyone will know it, all at the same moment.
GC
Wow! Since when do Christians pay attention to prophecies about messiah? I mean that really. For Christians prophecies were always unimportant technicalities because then even their Jesus would be fake messiah considering that OT prophecies of the messiah's arrival would usher in: the end of sin, the end of suffering, peace and tranquility, one creed and one religion, the resurrection of the dead, the gathering of the ten tribes under a Davidic king, building of the future temple etc. none of that happened and yet do I need to remind you how many people, including yourself, think this Jesus was indeed messiah prophesied by OT.
Even when writers of Jesus myth try to fulfill prophecies about Jesus coming, like Elijah's coming was to precede the messiah's arrival, write themselves into a corner and fail, because John the Baptist flatly stated he was not the predicted Elijah.
Not to mention that Jesus himself was really bad prophesying himself, like one about our times when he said "And they shall hear my voice and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd." However, after two thousand years we have over 40 000 separate Christian denominations. That hardly sounds like one fold and one shepherd.
Or Revelations 3:11 Jesus said, "Behold, I come quickly." After two thousand years Jesus is yet to come and by any measure that is hardly "quickly."
Or when he said "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth". He was not actually put in the earth, much less the heart of the earth and much less time.
So even by Bible's strict conditions, to which you try to cling, Jesus is a fake messiah because Deuteronomy 18:22 says, "When a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word which the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously, you need not be afraid of him"
Like I showed you Jesus spoke prophecies in Lord's name which did not come true and yet you don't care. All you care about is the trumpets. You gotta have the trumpets.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
