RE: Jesus already came (at lest for some)
July 18, 2017 at 5:45 pm
(This post was last modified: July 18, 2017 at 7:03 pm by Huggy Bear.)
(July 18, 2017 at 5:07 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:(July 18, 2017 at 4:29 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: I just posted the scripture where it stated that the Messiah would be CUT OFF...
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/cut-off
But you're going to sit here and pretend the Bible says no such thing. how about you provide scripture that supports your theory that those prophecies were suppose to be completed during his first coming.
Not a bible scholar so I'll let wiki talk:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prediction..._of_Christ
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Coming (this one has specific bible references for you, 1 John 2:18 looks pretty good)
I said nothing about it's first coming.
What you said was those prophecies were supposed to be fulfilled 2000 years ago which would be during his first coming...
If Jesus were to have completed everything during his firs coming then the Gentiles would have no chance. Did not Jesus state to the Jews that he had sheep that weren't of that flock?
Quote:John 10:16The OP made mention of that scripture:
And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
(July 18, 2017 at 11:32 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Not to mention that Jesus himself was really bad prophesying himself, like one about our times when he said "And they shall hear my voice and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd." However, after two thousand years we have over 40 000 separate Christian denominations. That hardly sounds like one fold and one shepherd.*emphasis mine*
But due to his ignorance (not to mention taking the quote out of context) he doesn't realize that Jesus isn't referring to Christian denominations he is referring to Jew and Gentile being of one flock, where as previously the Jews didn't associate with Gentiles, which is why it was seen as controversial when Paul met with Gentiles.
Hence why the Bible states the Messiah would "be cut off, BUT NOT FOR HIMSELF"... but for the sake of the Gentiles.