Jesus already came (at lest for some)

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And you haven't proven that god exists and this is not all just one big fantasy devoid of reason and logic.

And this is where every discussion on matters of religion (with atheists) ultimately end up...

I didn't start the OP, you claimed the Bible stated something that it doesn't, whether or not you believe god exists has no bearing to what the Bible actually says or does not say.

If we were discussing what a dictionary says, would proving God exists be relevant to that? so why is it relevant in this case?

What it's like having a discussion with atheists when THEY bring up the subject of religion.

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The point is that we're discussing myths here, you know. Atheists (or deists, and/or an agnostics) can be no less educated in theological aspects of a given religion than even apologists of said religion but the differense is that they operate with full knowing that it's still nothing more than a myth.

By the way, an interesting aspect is that an unbeliever may happen to enjoy studying and discussing theological and philosophical aspects of a religion much more than a believer. Because a believer is almost always restrained and pressed by his dogma while an unbeliever's mind and imagination are free.

You know, in the real world we mostly don't. Around here we can vent about the stupid shit we heard from one of you christers at work (or on tv or at the mall or street preaching or...). We get pounded by christer beliefs daily yet on the rare occasion we mention it to someone in position to stop it (when it's in an inappropriate place, like at work), we're usually shut down.

Then we get ass-clowns like you coming here and complaining about what we choose to discuss. Don't like what you read here, don't come here. You won't find me on a christer board and I won't miss you if you leave.

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You say it says one thing which is very debatable and varies from translation to translation (why would a god make it so?), I say it says another. Are you arguing that the bible is not open to interpretation? If so, you should all be of one sect. However, the bible, in all of it's forms, is open to wild degrees of interpretation and christians are not of one belief/sect! 

We are not discussing a dictionary but your preferred poorly written fantasy story. It is relevant in this case because it's the christians position the content of the book is of god and not fantasy. Back at ya, prove it. 

If I speak to another christian and get different answer, then yours only becomes opinion (not truth?). Again, why would an ultimate god let it's words devolve into confusion, debate and discord? Answer, it would not. This is a fantasy story written by men.