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Hybrid theory between freewill and determinism
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RE: Hybrid theory between freewill and determinism
(July 22, 2017 at 1:13 pm)Won2blv Wrote: I believe that we are pre-wired to make every decision that we make. But I believe that we have some control over the wiring. So in that sense, I do believe that we have an ability to make our own decisions, but we have to wire our minds to think and act in accord with those decision before we have to make them.

To illustrate, imagine that your mind as a whole is a train company. Your subconscious is like the board of directors. Your self-aware conscious is not the CEO though, but rather its the train conductor. We think that our conscious is in so much control, but it really isn't. Of course, the more educated you are and the more healthy you are mentally and physically, the more control you have as an engineer. But I would liken that control to just being able to know how to run the train safely and smoothly, not choosing its course. Like how an engineer slows down when going on tight turns. But lets say that the train conductor has years of experience and knows of better routes or smoother and more efficient routes. If we start consciously becoming more and more aware of finding paths of least resistance then it will have a domino effect that will eventually lead to your subconscious "re-routing" your train tracks, or decisions.

So in general, I believe that if we're more and more self-aware of our subconscious thinking, then we're more able to lay out the train tracks with more and more input from our rational conscious, rather than our irrational subconscious. I believe that is the essence of why we humans hold onto so many bad ideas, our subconscious minds have way too much sway over our rational, right her right now, self-aware conscious has. We hold onto bad ideas, because at some point in our evolutionary history, that bad idea had some kind of evolutionary advantage or was an accident that just stuck. We just shoehorn those bad ideas into "logical" and "rational" seeming views. Like voting for Donald Trump

Of course, none of this is taking into account brain damage or other irreversible maladies that could occur in the brain. Like people who voted for Donald Trump

I think everything you wrote above "So in general," was pretty obtuse, but the rest makes perfect sense. I don't think it's quite as complicated and convoluted as you make it out to be but I get the underlying point you're trying to make. We get mentally lazy if we're not conscientious about how we let our subconscious pretty much take the driver's seat and we can't always be conscientious about watching ourselves 100% of the time, but some people don't spend any time dwelling on this at all so they end up on a downhill, degenerative route and become the kind of people chanting "Make America Great/White Again". Evolution apparently has stopped weeding out that sort of thing which would otherwise be catastrophically disadvantageous because they tend to breed more and leave us footing the bill for all their fuck-ups because we're so compassionate. I hate being the good guy sometimes.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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RE: Hybrid theory between freewill and determinism - by Astonished - July 22, 2017 at 1:31 pm

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