RE: So can god end his own existence?
July 27, 2017 at 12:24 am
(This post was last modified: July 27, 2017 at 12:25 am by Godscreated.)
(July 26, 2017 at 8:23 am)Brian37 Wrote:(July 26, 2017 at 2:45 am)Godscreated Wrote: He had to live the perfect life to be the perfect sacrifice, without living that life He could not have been the perfect sacrifice. Some things just have to be done in real time and this is one of those things. Jesus was vulnerable to temptation but He never gave into it, thus a sinless life.
GC
A sacrifice is when you lose something and never get it back.
No it's not. I sacrificed things to serve the church but in the end received more than I ever gave up.
Brian37 Wrote:Nobody survives rigor mortis so the death myth is bullshit in any case.
You're right that no one survives rigor mortis, Jesus's body was restored by the God of creation and the crucifixion story is a reality.
Brian37 Wrote:But if you use the word "sacrifice" as part of a story, it still does not fit the definition if one also at the same time says Jesus is not dead and will come back.
I explained this above and He will be back.
Brian37 Wrote:No, if you want a real sacrifice, those would be the soldiers of D-Day. They died, they did not seek fame or attention, and they did not come home.
Those men were heroes who were willing to sacrifice their lives for a cause. Jesus sacrificed His life for a cause. The two causes were different. Those soldiers gave their lives to preserve a way of life. Jesus gave His life to restore people to an eternal life.
Brian37 Wrote:The way the Jesus myth reads, is more like a PR stunt, a magic act, not a sacrifice.
That's only your opinion and counts for little in the world of Christianity.
Brian37 Wrote:The worst part of that story is that it is still an act of torture. The soldiers who landed on the beach and died, died quickly at least.You are correct, Jesus died at the tortuous hands of man, evil hearts killing the One who loved them. Many of those soldiers died agonizing deaths, many of the sailors at Pearl Harbor lingered for days and weeks before dying from their burns and wounds.
GC
(July 26, 2017 at 8:45 am)Inkfeather132 Wrote:(July 26, 2017 at 12:15 am)Godscreated Wrote: It really is sad to see people through their common sense out the window and act like little children on the play ground. You can't argue against the Bible and be respected till you grow up.
GC
So I'm childish for just clarifying a definition to you? Yeah, I'm pretty sure the childish one here is the one whining about being corrected.
You called it.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.