(July 26, 2017 at 2:17 am)Godscreated Wrote:

(July 26, 2017 at 1:38 am)Kernel Sohcahtoa Wrote:  Thank you for your reply.  Is it possible that your  god's omniscience is the product of practical experience? Can omniscience be the result of evolution and growth? As per the op, can your god choose to devolve to a lesser state?

 In a way He did, God the Son became a human and lived with all the temptations of man. God the Son laid down all His powers to become a man so He could live the perfect life and become the only perfect sacrifice for all of mankind. You're welcome.

 GC

Jesus couldn't demonstrate anything new to God that God didn't already know ??

(July 26, 2017 at 2:22 am)vorlon13 Wrote:

(July 26, 2017 at 2:17 am)Godscreated Wrote:  In a way He did, God the Son became a human and lived with all the temptations of man. God the Son laid down all His powers to become a man so He could live the perfect life and become the only perfect sacrifice for all of mankind. You're welcome.

 GC

Jesus couldn't demonstrate anything new to God that God didn't already know ??

Who said Jesus was trying to demonstrate anything to God. Jesus himself said that He only does what He sees the Father doing.

GC

what was the point of living with the temptations of man ??

not breaking any new ground there . . . .

(July 26, 2017 at 2:38 am)vorlon13 Wrote: what was the point of living with the temptations of man ??

not breaking any new ground there . . . .

 He had to live the perfect life to be the perfect sacrifice, without living that life He could not have been the perfect sacrifice. Some things just have to be done in real time and this is one of those things. Jesus was vulnerable to temptation but He never gave into it, thus a sinless life.

GC

(July 26, 2017 at 12:15 am)Godscreated Wrote:

(July 24, 2017 at 1:43 pm)Inkfeather132 Wrote: Doesn't matter if he wants to or not, we are asking if he can do it. Once again, it's a question of omnipotence. Is god omnipotent? If yes, then he can end his own existence. If he can't end his own existence, then he is not omnipotent.

 It really is sad to see people through their common sense out the window and act like little children on the play ground. You can't argue  the Bible and be respected till you grow up.

GC

Fixed that for you.

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(July 26, 2017 at 1:06 am)Godscreated Wrote:

(July 26, 2017 at 12:32 am)Kernel Sohcahtoa Wrote: This is meant with all due respect to you, as it is an honest inquiry in relation to how you perceive the world, sir. With that said, does your god have a maturity level? Does your god go up and down the spectrum of various maturity levels (childish to adult-like to sage-like etc)? When your god's practitioners go up and down the spectrum of maturity levels, are they simply following the example of your god?

 God is omniscient.

 GC

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And you're a dick.  And we HAVE evidence for that...

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(July 26, 2017 at 2:45 am)Godscreated Wrote:

(July 26, 2017 at 2:38 am)vorlon13 Wrote: what was the point of living with the temptations of man ??

not breaking any new ground there . . . .

 He had to live the perfect life to be the perfect sacrifice, without living that life He could not have been the perfect sacrifice. Some things just have to be done in real time and this is one of those things. Jesus was vulnerable to temptation but He never gave into it, thus a sinless life.

GC

Pulling shit out of your ass feels good, huh?

(July 26, 2017 at 2:45 am)Godscreated Wrote:

(July 26, 2017 at 2:38 am)vorlon13 Wrote: what was the point of living with the temptations of man ??

not breaking any new ground there . . . .

 He had to live the perfect life to be the perfect sacrifice, without living that life He could not have been the perfect sacrifice. Some things just have to be done in real time and this is one of those things. Jesus was vulnerable to temptation but He never gave into it, thus a sinless life.

GC

A sacrifice is when you lose something and never get it back. Nobody survives rigor mortis so the death myth is bullshit in any case. But if you use the word "sacrifice" as part of a story, it still does not fit the definition if one also at the same time says Jesus is not dead and will come back. 

No, if you want a real sacrifice, those would be the soldiers of D-Day. They died, they did not seek fame or attention, and they did not come home. 

The way the Jesus myth reads, is more like a PR stunt, a magic act, not a sacrifice. 

The worst part of that story is that it is still an act of torture. The soldiers who landed on the beach and died, died quickly at least.

(July 26, 2017 at 12:15 am)Godscreated Wrote:

(July 24, 2017 at 1:43 pm)Inkfeather132 Wrote: Doesn't matter if he wants to or not, we are asking if he can do it. Once again, it's a question of omnipotence. Is god omnipotent? If yes, then he can end his own existence. If he can't end his own existence, then he is not omnipotent.

 It really is sad to see people through their common sense out the window and act like little children on the play ground. You can't argue against the Bible and be respected till you grow up.

GC

So I'm childish for just clarifying a definition to you? Yeah, I'm pretty sure the childish one here is the one whining about being corrected.

(July 26, 2017 at 2:17 am)Godscreated Wrote:

(July 26, 2017 at 1:38 am)Kernel Sohcahtoa Wrote:  Thank you for your reply.  Is it possible that your  god's omniscience is the product of practical experience? Can omniscience be the result of evolution and growth? As per the op, can your god choose to devolve to a lesser state?

 In a way He did, God the Son became a human and lived with all the temptations of man. God the Son laid down all His powers to become a man so He could live the perfect life and become the only perfect sacrifice for all of mankind. You're welcome.

 GC

Thanks.  IMO, your response is interesting, as it seems that your god possesses humanistic qualities.   With that said, and per the op, how can you be conclusively sure that your god has not ended its own existence? How do you know that what you experience as your god is not some kind of a recording? If your god is omnipotent then how would you be able to tell?

(July 21, 2017 at 8:04 pm)Vast Vision Wrote: Can the god you believe in end his own existence?

God describes Himself as the Alpha and Omega the beginning and the end to all Things.

The title in of it self tells us who God is and the depth of His authority. An alpha and omega means He has the first say/He makes the Rules, and the omega He has the last say in what happens. there is no greater authority.

Therefore if the will of God say He can't create a rock so big He could lift then He couldn't, however if the will of an alpha and Omega God say He could create a rock so big He couldn't lift it then He could not lift the rock. It's all about what God wants/God's will.

Therefore if it is in His will that He pass on the He will pass on, if not then not.

(July 26, 2017 at 8:23 am)Brian37 Wrote:

(July 26, 2017 at 2:45 am)Godscreated Wrote:  He had to live the perfect life to be the perfect sacrifice, without living that life He could not have been the perfect sacrifice. Some things just have to be done in real time and this is one of those things. Jesus was vulnerable to temptation but He never gave into it, thus a sinless life.

GC

A sacrifice is when you lose something and never get it back.

No it's not. I sacrificed things to serve the church but in the end received more than I ever gave up.

Brian37 Wrote:Nobody survives rigor mortis so the death myth is bullshit in any case.

You're right that no one survives rigor mortis, Jesus's body was restored by the God of creation and the crucifixion story is a reality.

Brian37 Wrote:But if you use the word "sacrifice" as part of a story, it still does not fit the definition if one also at the same time says Jesus is not dead and will come back.

I explained this above and He will be back.

Brian37 Wrote:No, if you want a real sacrifice, those would be the soldiers of D-Day. They died, they did not seek fame or attention, and they did not come home.

Those men were heroes who were willing to sacrifice their lives for a cause. Jesus sacrificed His life for a cause. The two causes were different. Those soldiers gave their lives to preserve a way of life. Jesus gave His life to restore people to an eternal life.

Brian37 Wrote:The way the Jesus myth reads, is more like a PR stunt, a magic act, not a sacrifice.

That's only your opinion and counts for little in the world of Christianity.

Brian37 Wrote:The worst part of that story is that it is still an act of torture. The soldiers who landed on the beach and died, died quickly at least.

You are correct, Jesus died at the tortuous hands of man, evil hearts killing the One who loved them. Many of those soldiers died agonizing deaths, many of the sailors at Pearl Harbor lingered for days and weeks before dying from their burns and wounds.

GC

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(July 26, 2017 at 8:45 am)Inkfeather132 Wrote:

(July 26, 2017 at 12:15 am)Godscreated Wrote:  It really is sad to see people through their common sense out the window and act like little children on the play ground. You can't argue against the Bible and be respected till you grow up.

GC

So I'm childish for just clarifying a definition to you? Yeah, I'm pretty sure the childish one here is the one whining about being corrected.

 You called it.

GC