RE: Debunking Christianity? It's actually quite as simple as asking "why?"
July 29, 2011 at 8:37 am
(This post was last modified: July 29, 2011 at 9:56 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Read the article, the guy bends the text but does not break it. A local flood is born. I have to ask though. The flood covered all of the land in the region, yes? Mt. Ararat is what, 16,000ft above sea lvl? I'm imagining a wall of water standing straight up, with an exposed edge on the boundaries of "the region" with god holding it back as the people below continue their daily farming and herding. The evidence definitely doesn't support such a theory. (The evidence is called gravity)
An interesting side note in this discussion. The regional flood is not a new idea or interpretation. The Eighth Edition of Encyclopedia Britannica (circa 1853-1860) takes the stance of Bishop Stillingfleet, approved by Matthew Poole...and others, of a regional flood. By the Ninth Edition (circa 1875) there is absolutely no attempt made to reconcile the flood narrative with scientific data or observations. So, a "regional flood" is not a new idea, but it is one that has not been pursued in about 136 years. That's how long we've had to accept the narrative as fiction, or metaphor due not to the improbability, but the impossibility of the premise, in addition to direct contradiction by scientific observation, backed up by a wealth of information on flood narratives in general, and the cultures they spread from and to.
I really do love flood mythology. "The Deluge" makes predictions that can be (and have been) tested. Some of these predictions are relatively new. Take for example the statement of even a regional flood, ark, etc. This would tell us that we should see find deluvium in the area, with a direct connection or correlation to genetic bottle-necking, and that a boat of these dimensions would be feasable. We might also want to see a drastic change in nautical engineering in the same time-frame. After all, this flood happened and so it left evidence like any large flood, all animals and people (however you wish to define all in both cases) would have 2 of a small subset of ancestors at this time, after which, the only people that are left would all know how to build arks. The uses and advantages of such a craft in the time-frame that the deluge narrative is supposed to have occurred within are obvious, the ark, if it were possible, would have been a plainly superior design, and we would expect to see it everywhere in short order.
We would want to find things like this to attempt to "prove" the deluge narrative to be truthful. We have done this, it is not.
An interesting side note in this discussion. The regional flood is not a new idea or interpretation. The Eighth Edition of Encyclopedia Britannica (circa 1853-1860) takes the stance of Bishop Stillingfleet, approved by Matthew Poole...and others, of a regional flood. By the Ninth Edition (circa 1875) there is absolutely no attempt made to reconcile the flood narrative with scientific data or observations. So, a "regional flood" is not a new idea, but it is one that has not been pursued in about 136 years. That's how long we've had to accept the narrative as fiction, or metaphor due not to the improbability, but the impossibility of the premise, in addition to direct contradiction by scientific observation, backed up by a wealth of information on flood narratives in general, and the cultures they spread from and to.
I really do love flood mythology. "The Deluge" makes predictions that can be (and have been) tested. Some of these predictions are relatively new. Take for example the statement of even a regional flood, ark, etc. This would tell us that we should see find deluvium in the area, with a direct connection or correlation to genetic bottle-necking, and that a boat of these dimensions would be feasable. We might also want to see a drastic change in nautical engineering in the same time-frame. After all, this flood happened and so it left evidence like any large flood, all animals and people (however you wish to define all in both cases) would have 2 of a small subset of ancestors at this time, after which, the only people that are left would all know how to build arks. The uses and advantages of such a craft in the time-frame that the deluge narrative is supposed to have occurred within are obvious, the ark, if it were possible, would have been a plainly superior design, and we would expect to see it everywhere in short order.
We would want to find things like this to attempt to "prove" the deluge narrative to be truthful. We have done this, it is not.
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