I lost my Soul

[Ravenshire]

Bullshit!  Nobody "chooses" to suffer.  If your god created a hell, your god is responsible for all suffering that occurs there.

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I disagree.  You made a conscious decision to preach "God's plan" at us, and as the threat is coming from you, I am treating it exactly as if you had threatened us with some more mundane form of harm.

Own your fucking language.

(Amazing that this entire thread started with a plagiarized, old, made-up tale that has been passed around the internet for decades, posted by a shit-and-run creep.)

Astreja - -    - - brava.  Yes, precisely.  

And if God DID create the earth, and IS actually omniscient . . . (I know, it's a ridiculous stretch already) then God knew, before creating humans, that a hell was going to be necessary.  (I mean, he started with the dinosaurs - but they weren't capable of worship, so that was a failed experiment.  Exterminate.  And that first crop of humans.  Failed experiment. Drown them.) And God knew, before creating humans, that the VAST majority of all humanity would NOT worship him.  Not only that, but until . . . what, the 1800's? . . . most of the people on the planet would not have heard of him or his baby boy who was himself - at all.  (Maybe that should be the 1900's - anybody?)  So he KNEW that he was creating billions of conscious creatures for the SOLE PURPOSE OF TORTURING THEM FOREVER.  Maybe he gets his power from screams?  My Mother used to say "we don't worry about those people.  God knew who would accept him and who would not."  That just makes it worse.  

To think that human beings could even think up THIS level of evil.  This level of sick sadism.  This horrific lack of empathy for their fellow man.
To think that some xtians today wonder why people are leaving the church.  All they have to do is look at the fundie version of God, who will, by their own delighted admission, keep a few loyal humans for pets (just them, the ones who have it RIGHT) while sending others to eternal torture.

(emphasis is mine)

Are you saying gawd is this guy?!?


Not a very omniscient gawd if he didn't even know that laughter has more power!