(July 29, 2017 at 2:38 pm)Drich Wrote: You not creating n eternal Hell what do you do with satan? let him loose on your population of followers? are you stupid or short sighted?

If I were an omnipotent god, I would put Ole Scratch in charge of maintaining heaven's plumbing. Ain't nothin' like shoveling a little shit to straighten a boy out.

(July 28, 2017 at 10:34 pm)Astreja Wrote:

(July 28, 2017 at 7:55 pm)Godscreated Wrote: I've chosen to worship a loving God who offers everyone a release from an eternal hell, if you do not chose it then it is your fault that you suffer eternally.

Bullshit!  Nobody "chooses" to suffer.  If your god created a hell, your god is responsible for all suffering that occurs there.

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(July 28, 2017 at 9:40 pm)Godscreated Wrote: I'm not threatening you, I'm telling you what God's plan says.

I disagree.  You made a conscious decision to preach "God's plan" at us, and as the threat is coming from you, I am treating it exactly as if you had threatened us with some more mundane form of harm.

Own your fucking language.

(Amazing that this entire thread started with a plagiarized, old, made-up tale that has been passed around the internet for decades, posted by a shit-and-run creep.)

Astreja - -    - - brava.  Yes, precisely.  

And if God DID create the earth, and IS actually omniscient . . . (I know, it's a ridiculous stretch already) then God knew, before creating humans, that a hell was going to be necessary.  (I mean, he started with the dinosaurs - but they weren't capable of worship, so that was a failed experiment.  Exterminate.  And that first crop of humans.  Failed experiment. Drown them.) And God knew, before creating humans, that the VAST majority of all humanity would NOT worship him.  Not only that, but until . . . what, the 1800's? . . . most of the people on the planet would not have heard of him or his baby boy who was himself - at all.  (Maybe that should be the 1900's - anybody?)  So he KNEW that he was creating billions of conscious creatures for the SOLE PURPOSE OF TORTURING THEM FOREVER.  Maybe he gets his power from screams?  My Mother used to say "we don't worry about those people.  God knew who would accept him and who would not."  That just makes it worse.  

To think that human beings could even think up THIS level of evil.  This level of sick sadism.  This horrific lack of empathy for their fellow man.
To think that some xtians today wonder why people are leaving the church.  All they have to do is look at the fundie version of God, who will, by their own delighted admission, keep a few loyal humans for pets (just them, the ones who have it RIGHT) while sending others to eternal torture.

Hey, I wonder if we can get the OP officially banned for misrepresenting the post as his own? Let's help GoneGuy live up to his name, hey?

I sold my "soul" to the "devil", but clearly it did not work since for what I asked was never delivered.

I just wanted to mention that Astreja has a new fan in me, and that I changed my signature for the first time my whole membership, because I felt the points she made here were so well-spoken and relevent, they deserved to he shared.

Just so you know, Luckie, technically I'm not Queen of Earth at the moment.  My pro tempore representative is Tiamat -- I delegated the job to Her back in 2002 because with 5 heads She's mastered the art of ruling the planet and getting a good night's sleep at the same time.

I'm a water child, a fearer of Bahemut, and you just gave me a major girl hard on. Deal with it.

(July 29, 2017 at 2:38 pm)Drich Wrote: Wow just wow. never actually met someone who thinks this whole universe revolves around themselves...

Look in the mirror lately?

(July 29, 2017 at 2:56 pm)Cyberman Wrote:

(July 29, 2017 at 2:38 pm)Drich Wrote: Wow just wow. never actually met someone who thinks this whole universe revolves around themselves... Someone who has never given any thought to anything deeper than his own lot and how what God creates only affects him.

No mirrors in your house, huh?

What I saw was me, which is why my hope was to have that person experience what I did. So that his heart may be humbled from all that he thinks he knows.

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(July 29, 2017 at 3:47 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(July 29, 2017 at 2:38 pm)Drich Wrote: You not creating n eternal Hell what do you do with satan? let him loose on your population of followers? are you stupid or short sighted?

If I were an omnipotent god, I would put Ole Scratch in charge of maintaining heaven's plumbing. Ain't nothin' like shoveling a little shit to straighten a boy out.

or he could just throw him in Hell forever..

why does anyone care what happens to Satan?

(July 31, 2017 at 8:36 am)Drich Wrote:

(July 29, 2017 at 3:47 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: If I were an omnipotent god, I would put Ole Scratch in charge of maintaining heaven's plumbing. Ain't nothin' like shoveling a little shit to straighten a boy out.

or he could just throw him in Hell forever..

why does anyone care what happens to Satan?

I was obviously trafficking in the absurd, which is perfectly appropriate considering the absurdity of the faith-claims here.