(August 2, 2017 at 2:10 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(August 2, 2017 at 1:56 pm)Astonished Wrote: Oh, you're at least consistent in your ignorance and intransigence, that's not in dispute. I'm simply attempting to get you to really look at yourself in the mirror and understand that about yourself. That you are incapable of providing a good argument for anything because you're not willing or able to look at it from the outside in. If you continue to limit yourself to that worldview, you're going to continue to miss out on so much. So forget about the rest of us, just do that for yourself, exercise some critical reasoning, be ruthlessly scrutinizing of your own methodology, and you might just emancipate yourself.So as I suggested, create a thread and discuss.... I'm willing to look at what you have to say, your evidence and reasoning; and to have a civil discussion about it. Although I don't think it will be anything new. And I ask that you would extend the same courtesy. Perhaps we won't agree, but you can come to a better understanding of where I am coming from.
But if this is what you have decided to use as your glass ceiling, whatever, I'm tired of looking at how it's making your face all scrunched-up against it.
I'm not going to entertain any more disruption of this post by your need to insult me. This is the last time I am going to say it, so don't tell me; I'm not willing to look at other views, when I am inviting you to create a thread to do just that. If your not really wanting to discuss, then I consider this just flaming and repeatedly trying to attack me and disrupt, in the guise of critical thinking.
(August 2, 2017 at 1:24 pm)paulpablo Wrote: It is evidence.
Even in a case which seems as clear cut as that though I don't see it as impossible that someone could cast reasonable doubt on that evidence.
I think that there is always possible doubt, however the question is if it reasonable.
Just, answer me this: You didn't exactly respond to any of my objections, answer in a cohesive way any of the relevant questions I asked, and are continuing to dodge all of this despite YOUR bringing up the entire topic because of your fundamental misunderstanding of the validity (or lack thereof) of your favored mechanism of demonstrating things, so, why exactly suggest I go create a thread to do anything if you can't be bothered to produce any sort of defense for it in your own thread? And of course there's not going to be anything new, your case hasn't changed or advanced in two millennia.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.