Not really trying to say anything... or get anyone to change their mind here (as I have said). I suppose that asking people such questions so I can learn where they are at, and accurately represent them is a difficult and foreign concept here (by some reactions anyway). Just assume I must have an ulterior motive.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man. - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther