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August 17, 2017 at 12:49 pm (This post was last modified: August 17, 2017 at 12:52 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(August 17, 2017 at 10:35 am)vorlon13 Wrote: BTW, Eve is totally exonerated in Scripture. She was unaware she was committing an error until she ate the fruit. So, any decision made prior to that, including the decision to eat the fruit, does not condemn her (or her descendants BTW).
So, the whole 'original sin' thing is totally unsupported by the Holy Scriptures themselves.
Only if your bible is missing genesis, romans, and corinthians................? For an exonerated woman, god gets awfully biblical on her ass, as well as all her descendants, a dragon (and all it's descendants), and the dirt under their feet.......
Gen
Quote:14 So the Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this, “Cursed are you above all livestock and all wild animals!
You will crawl on your belly and you will eat dust all the days of your life. 15 And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring[a] and hers;
he will crush[b] your head, and you will strike his heel.” 16 To the woman he said, “I will make your pains in childbearing very severe; with painful labor you will give birth to children.
Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you.” 17 To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat from it,’ “Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat food from it all the days of your life. 18 It will produce thorns and thistles for you, and you will eat the plants of the field. 19 By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food
until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken;
for dust you are and to dust you will return.”
Rom
Quote:12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned—
13 To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not charged against anyone’s account where there is no law.14 Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who is a pattern of the one to come.
15 But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God’s grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many! 16 Nor can the gift of God be compared with the result of one man’s sin: The judgment followed one sin and brought condemnation, but the gift followed many trespasses and brought justification. 17 For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ! 18 Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people, so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people. 19 For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.
Cor
Quote:22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.
-and lets not forget that this is the catholic church were talking about, sola scriptura isn't anything that makes them sweat at night, in any case.
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