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It Seems They Really Are Dumber Than Dog Shit
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RE: It Seems They Really Are Dumber Than Dog Shit
(August 22, 2017 at 1:32 pm)Chad32 Wrote:
(August 22, 2017 at 12:57 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I am sick of this bullshit "both parties are the same". NO! 

Only 1 party is the the problem and that is the GOP. They started Reagan's deregulation and "don't tax the rich" bullshit, not democrats. The only thing you can blame our politicians on is too much compromise, but I wouldn't call it compromise as much as it is we are being held hostage.

You still have failed to do your research as to which party since 1980 has held the bulk of the power of all three branches ON AVERAGE in that time. If you would fucking take the time and look that up, you'd know that the only reason dems cant do anything is because we haven't held enough power over all three branches,  for a long enough time. And gerrymandering also has not helped in that time.

But as far a our ideas as VOTERS, we are STILL on the right side of history as far as wanting livable wages, regulations on Wall Street so we don't end up with another Bush Jr crash. We want livable wages for workers and universal health care.

I didn't mean to indicate that I believe that the republicans are great, and the democrats are bad. This is what they believe, when they say Trump is great, but wanted to hate on Obama.

The democrats have problems, but those problems stem from taking big donations, and being dragged to the right by republicans and their donors. I do hope this new progressive wave takes over the democratic party, or builds up a viable third party, or whatever it takes to get proper progressive views going in this country again.

You are still missing my point.

1. What politicians do.

2. Voters ideas as voters.

Of course dems take donations, because if we don't and they do, they gain an advantage. But we didn't start the age of deregulation. We would prefer more regulations on political money. THAT is what you are not getting. There is a difference between being forced to play the game, and being part of the game.

We need more election regulations.
We need more Wall Street regulations.

But until dems get the upper hand in all three branches we are stuck playing their game.

And it isn't a matter of gaining the upper hand, but getting it growing it and keeping that power long enough to be effective so we dont have to compromise or be held hostage.


Dems lost the narrative in the Reagan era. Since then we have been forced to play defense. Gerrymandering and voter apathy during that time has not helped. But as far as ideas, we are on the right side of history, even though our execution has sucked outside of presidential elections.
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RE: It Seems They Really Are Dumber Than Dog Shit - by Jackie - August 22, 2017 at 2:03 pm

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