One more dogma to add to the rest.

[Little Rik]

Little Rik Wrote: I really can not see any difference between a religious fanatic that only believe in creation or that there is the hell and an atheist that go around saying that the peak of evolution or that the ultimate in evolution is being a human.

None of whatsoever.

It's not obvious that you can understand much of anything.

You're probably right.  You should stick with your fairy tales.  They seem to be at a level you can handle.

Well, we all stick around something.

I stick around the one who is teaching me how to get to the peak of evolution.
You on the contrary stick around the F word 24/7.

Let us see who is the smart.  

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Your confusion is out of control Mat.

Humans have the free will so whatever we do affect us in the good or the bad.
We are stuck inside a body so it is obvious that we have to put up with that and if we take the wrong decision we suffer.
Our consciousness lose and it fade away according to the damage that we have done.
Also the opposite happen if we do the right thing.
In this case our consciousness gain and become stronger.  

Humans do have choices in life, but there is no sky hero vs super villain battling over the neurons in your brain as if you are a poker chip. 

I am an atheist, but I have no violent felonies, haven't even had a speeding ticket since 1999. How is it I can avoid harming others then if I don't buy you sky hero claims? 

Here's how, because I am not making bets on fictional super heros, and I accept because of my own natural empathy that life goes better when you don't harm others. I don't need an old book of mythology to tell me not to hurt other humans.

You are doing ok. Brian however not hurting other is not everything.
You need a lot more before you will be able to reach the peak of evolution but that idea will come in your mind at a later stage when you will get sick and tired of getting nowwhere.  

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Well now wait a minute, just a minute ago you told us consciousness could never be destroyed, but now it "lose and fade away", purportedly, depending on whether or not we follow your gurus advice and/or how many dogs we kick.

Just trying to get some clarity here, it would be horrible if my indestructible consciousness was somehow.....destroyed.

Good question Kem.
Fade away doesn't necessary mean to be destroyed.
Take something that you put away maybe in the store room.
After sometime the dust will cover it and if you look at it the image is not as clear as if would be kept away from the dust.
It is fading away as the dust cover it up but the object is still there.
If you clean it up his image will be restored.

Or take the sun.
When the clouds prevent us to see the sun you can hardly see it but as soon as the clouds go away then the sun will show again.
The sun doesn't die just because you can not see it.
It is only the fact that something prevent us to see it.

In other words no consciousness can be killed.
At the same time the consciousness can not be felt in some cases or can be felt even more in other cases.
Got it?