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One more dogma to add to the rest.
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RE: One more dogma to add to the rest.
(August 23, 2017 at 9:44 am)Khemikal Wrote:
(August 23, 2017 at 5:25 am)Little Rik Wrote:


Good question Kem.
Fade away doesn't necessary mean to be destroyed.
Take something that you put away maybe in the store room.
After sometime the dust will cover it and if you look at it the image is not as clear as if would be kept away from the dust.
It is fading away as the dust cover it up but the object is still there.
If you clean it up his image will be restored.

Or take the sun.
When the clouds prevent us to see the sun you can hardly see it but as soon as the clouds go away then the sun will show again.
The sun doesn't die just because you can not see it.
It is only the fact that something prevent us to see it.

In other words no consciousness can be killed.
At the same time the consciousness can not be felt in some cases or can be felt even more in other cases.
Got it?  Hi
 IDK, it sounds like you're coming up with ad hoc rationalizations as to why your contradictory statements are both simultaneously true.  If It were me, I'd have picked one or the other and just said "yeah, my bad, I guess they don't both make sense".

Is my consciousness like a jar, or the sun?  Both of those things -can- be destroyed.  Neither is being destroyed or even fading away when covered by dust or obstructed by clouds.  If my consciousness fades away to the point of not being "able to see it" in what way am I conscious, in what way does it still exist?

Matter is made out of consciousness but it take the form of matter because the consciousness in her is at the beginning of the creation cycle and therefore (she) can not yet be aware that she is pure consciousness.
Evolution of the consciousness is what drive matter to turn into plants.
Plants into animals, animals into humans and humans into God which is the starting and finishing point of this cycle.
Changes into different form of lives take place because consciousness doesn't wish to be restricted into lower form of lives.
She only wish to go back to her real form (God).
Matter is matter just because she is not conscious of her real form.
The awakening of this awareness is called evolution.
This is the real evolution.
Darwin and other studied only changes into form of existence without even bother that it is the awakening of consciousness that turn one form of existence into a more developed one.  Lightbulb
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One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Little Rik - August 22, 2017 at 8:23 am
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Cyberman - August 22, 2017 at 8:37 am
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Little Rik - August 22, 2017 at 8:48 am
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Cyberman - August 22, 2017 at 8:51 am
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Little Rik - August 22, 2017 at 8:57 am
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Alex K - August 22, 2017 at 9:06 am
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Little Rik - August 22, 2017 at 9:29 am
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Brian37 - August 22, 2017 at 9:51 am
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Little Rik - August 22, 2017 at 10:10 am
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by I_am_not_mafia - August 22, 2017 at 10:22 am
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Brian37 - August 22, 2017 at 10:42 am
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Little Rik - August 22, 2017 at 10:47 am
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Brian37 - August 22, 2017 at 10:56 am
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Cyberman - August 22, 2017 at 9:10 am
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by I_am_not_mafia - August 22, 2017 at 9:45 am
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Little Rik - August 22, 2017 at 10:03 am
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by I_am_not_mafia - August 22, 2017 at 10:07 am
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Little Rik - August 22, 2017 at 10:30 am
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Brian37 - August 22, 2017 at 10:11 am
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Little Rik - August 22, 2017 at 10:21 am
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Simon Moon - August 22, 2017 at 1:16 pm
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Brian37 - August 22, 2017 at 1:44 pm
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Alex K - August 22, 2017 at 8:51 am
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Little Rik - August 22, 2017 at 9:10 am
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Brian37 - August 22, 2017 at 9:21 am
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by I_am_not_mafia - August 22, 2017 at 9:49 am
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RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Little Rik - August 22, 2017 at 9:50 am
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by I_am_not_mafia - August 22, 2017 at 9:52 am
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Cyberman - August 22, 2017 at 9:56 am
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RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by The Grand Nudger - August 22, 2017 at 11:13 am
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RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by mordant - August 22, 2017 at 1:56 pm
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Simon Moon - August 22, 2017 at 6:09 pm
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Little Rik - August 23, 2017 at 6:07 am
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Minimalist - August 22, 2017 at 12:24 pm
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Little Rik - August 23, 2017 at 5:25 am
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RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Astonished - August 22, 2017 at 11:48 pm
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by The Grand Nudger - August 22, 2017 at 11:49 pm
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Astonished - August 23, 2017 at 12:12 am
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Thumpalumpacus - August 23, 2017 at 6:59 am
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Cyberman - August 23, 2017 at 7:15 am
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Little Rik - August 24, 2017 at 7:32 am
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RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Little Rik - August 25, 2017 at 6:17 am
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Cyberman - August 23, 2017 at 10:09 am
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Little Rik - August 24, 2017 at 7:15 am
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RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Astonished - August 25, 2017 at 3:00 pm
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by LastPoet - August 26, 2017 at 10:03 am
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Little Rik - August 26, 2017 at 9:18 am
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Amarok - August 26, 2017 at 3:11 pm
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Whateverist - August 26, 2017 at 3:35 pm
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Little Rik - August 27, 2017 at 2:32 am
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Cyberman - August 26, 2017 at 3:45 pm
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Whateverist - August 26, 2017 at 4:41 pm
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RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Cyberman - August 26, 2017 at 7:51 pm
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Astonished - August 26, 2017 at 7:54 pm
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RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Cyberman - August 26, 2017 at 8:14 pm
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RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by mordant - August 27, 2017 at 5:20 pm
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by LastPoet - August 27, 2017 at 5:31 pm
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RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Amarok - August 26, 2017 at 8:59 pm
RE: One more dogma to add to the rest. - by Astonished - August 29, 2017 at 1:04 am

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