RE: Game of Thrones Season 7 Discussion [SPOILERS WITHIN]
August 29, 2017 at 11:42 am
(This post was last modified: August 29, 2017 at 11:55 am by Aroura.)
All the main things that are happening in the show are hinted at or outright predicted in the books. This is absolutely, in a main way, where the books where also headed. I'm sure many details differ, but not the overall story arc, or even specific character arcs.
And I will say again that Martin did not kill off main characters. He pulled a nifty slight of hand that made readers, and later viewers, think certain people were main characters, but it turns out they were secondary or ancillary, and their deaths opened the way, and in some cases provided motivation with their death like with Arya, for the true main characters to emerge. Bed Stark, for example, was a main character in the story of Robert's rebellion, the true end of which is where book 1 takes place. But this isn't the story of Ned and Katelyn Stark, or Robert. We just got some very fleshed out backstory for the reaplmain characters, which as the series title suggests, are from the beginning, Jon and Danny.
The main characters are, and have always been for ASoIaF; Jon Snow, Danny, Tyrion, Jamie, Cercei, Arya, Bran, Sansa, The Hound, Brianne, etc. Some hid behind other characters for a time, but all have been completely main characters in the books since the end of book 3. The show didn't give them hero armor, Martin did.
Which is fine. As annoyed as I was at impossible timelines and forced romances, there is still a great deal to love about this series.
Face it, Martin lost control of this narrative at least 2 books ago. The current state of the story can be laid directly at his feet. His trick of pretending to kill off main characters for shock value could only last so long.
That being said, again imho, it's still a good story that I'm still looking forward to seeing the conclusion of.
And I will say again that Martin did not kill off main characters. He pulled a nifty slight of hand that made readers, and later viewers, think certain people were main characters, but it turns out they were secondary or ancillary, and their deaths opened the way, and in some cases provided motivation with their death like with Arya, for the true main characters to emerge. Bed Stark, for example, was a main character in the story of Robert's rebellion, the true end of which is where book 1 takes place. But this isn't the story of Ned and Katelyn Stark, or Robert. We just got some very fleshed out backstory for the reaplmain characters, which as the series title suggests, are from the beginning, Jon and Danny.
The main characters are, and have always been for ASoIaF; Jon Snow, Danny, Tyrion, Jamie, Cercei, Arya, Bran, Sansa, The Hound, Brianne, etc. Some hid behind other characters for a time, but all have been completely main characters in the books since the end of book 3. The show didn't give them hero armor, Martin did.
Which is fine. As annoyed as I was at impossible timelines and forced romances, there is still a great deal to love about this series.
(August 29, 2017 at 9:33 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote:I'm not trying to pick on you, but really? It seems that the show has cut out all the fat, and if anything, has become a bit too streamlined. Martin was the king of half baked plots that ended up being of no consequence, and the last 2 books were full of meandering plots, and predictable twists.(August 29, 2017 at 6:51 am)Iroscato Wrote: I get the vague impression you didn't take too kindly to s7, for some reason.
I've not been particularly impressed ever since the show got ahead of the books. Too many stupid, half-baked plots of no particular consequence, convenient and/or predictable twists.....[snip]
Face it, Martin lost control of this narrative at least 2 books ago. The current state of the story can be laid directly at his feet. His trick of pretending to kill off main characters for shock value could only last so long.
That being said, again imho, it's still a good story that I'm still looking forward to seeing the conclusion of.
“Eternity is a terrible thought. I mean, where's it going to end?”
― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead
― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead
