Can the Universe Exist without consciousness?

[theVOID]

1. I'm saying that because the universe contains all of time, at some point in time consciousness does exist. If consciousness exists at any point in time, then it can exist. They create each other, but neither can exist without the other. Unless of course, you believe that consciousness can exist outside the universe itself and does not require a physical body of sorts.

But suggesting that because consciousness can exist the universe cannot exit without it is absurd. Saying because rocks can exist in the universe the universe can't exist without them is just as valid given the argument you've presented.

You say they can create each other? Please present me one example of consciousness creating universes.

2. Kind of the same as above... we just haven't proven it yet, but if we do or if some other form of consciousness somewhere out there proves it at any point in time then it is certain that it exists.

So you think at every single thing that can be known is known by some consciousness at some point in time? Not only is that highly dubious at face value the Heisenberg uncertainty principle may even rule it out altogether, particles have both a momentum and position but it is impossible to measure one without affecting the other, the less the uncertainty about the position (Δp) the greater the uncertainty about the momentum (Δx) is. The precision (standard deviations) of the two multiplied is always greater than or equal to Plank's constant (ℏ) divided by two; ΔxΔp≥ℏ/2

So you can never be certain about either, the more certain you are about one the less certain you are about the other, or you can be equally uncertain about both meaning no consciousness could ever be certain about both, meaning no complete 'knowledge' of particles at any one time exist... By your reasoning if no complete knowledge of particles exist then no complete particles exist...