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Poll: Is there any aspect/type of god you as an atheist would be happy to discover existed? This poll is closed.
The biblical god in all his tyrannical, OT bad-assedness.	6.67%	1	6.67%
Just the loving hippy of the NT.	0%	0	0%
One that is concerned with human conduct and hands out eternal bliss or torture in a life-exit interview.	6.67%	1	6.67%
One that listens to 'prayers' or reads your mind and chooses life events with your development in mind; the 'world' for this sort of god is a kind of theater with no independent or necessary existence.	0%	0	0%
An all-powerful one that created everything from nothing just the way it is on purpose but has covered his tracks to make natural causes more plausible.	6.67%	1	6.67%
Not all-powerful, one possessed of some creative powers but not limitless, creating some forms but all from pre-existing substrata, not from 'nothing'.	26.67%	4	26.67%
One that is drastically older (approaching eternality?) and has seen it all but relates to you-as-consciousness as a kind of benevolent big brother and values your companionship without judgements or need for your worship.	53.33%	8	53.33%
Total		15 vote(s)	100%

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I'd like to ask my fellow atheists if they would be happy to learn there was a god.

Whateverist

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RE: I'd like to ask my fellow atheists if they would be happy to learn there was a god.

August 31, 2017 at 3:35 pm

(August 31, 2017 at 2:35 pm)Clueless Morgan Wrote:
(August 31, 2017 at 11:36 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: The way I see it, since my belief in God is that He is love and goodness

This makes no sense to me because by saying things like "God is love" you're saying that God is an emotion. Why should I worship an emotion?

It equally makes no sense to be to say "God is goodness" because that would mean that God is a subjective concept. Why should I worship a subjective concept? I understand that you probably don't see the concept of goodness as subjective, you probably think that there is some objective goodness that God... is... but by stating such you are then burdened with having to demonstrate that this goodness you think God is really is objective, and simply stating that "that's how I was raised/taught/what I believe," as I think you already know, isn't going to convince any of the atheists in this forum...

So we're left with:

Why should I worship an emotion?
Why should I worship a concept (whether it's subjective or objective)?

I can agree that things like love and goodness are ideals worth striving for in the same way that I think equality and justice are ideals worth striving for, but I don't need a god to embody any of these things for me to think they're worthwhile, I only need compassion and empathy.

Hate to see you two fight like this. After you hash it out I hope you can just scissor and make up.

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I'd like to ask my fellow atheists if they would be happy to learn there was a god. - by Whateverist - August 28, 2017 at 2:48 pm

RE: I'd like to ask my fellow atheists if they would be happy to learn there was a god. - by Mr.wizard - August 28, 2017 at 2:56 pm

RE: I'd like to ask my fellow atheists if they would be happy to learn there was a god. - by Catholic_Lady - August 28, 2017 at 6:25 pm

RE: I'd like to ask my fellow atheists if they would be happy to learn there was a god. - by Simon Moon - August 28, 2017 at 7:25 pm

RE: I'd like to ask my fellow atheists if they would be happy to learn there was a god. - by Catholic_Lady - August 28, 2017 at 8:48 pm

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RE: I'd like to ask my fellow atheists if they would be happy to learn there was a god. - by Whateverist - August 28, 2017 at 2:58 pm

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RE: I'd like to ask my fellow atheists if they would be happy to learn there was a god. - by Whateverist - August 31, 2017 at 10:29 am

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RE: I'd like to ask my fellow atheists if they would be happy to learn there was a god. - by Whateverist - August 31, 2017 at 1:22 pm

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RE: I'd like to ask my fellow atheists if they would be happy to learn there was a god. - by Whateverist - August 31, 2017 at 3:35 pm

RE: I'd like to ask my fellow atheists if they would be happy to learn there was a god. - by Catholic_Lady - August 31, 2017 at 4:47 pm

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