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Very short version of the long argument.
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RE: Very short version of the long argument.
(September 11, 2017 at 8:47 am)MysticKnight Wrote: Guys, if you want details, look at the long argument in the other thread. It's all there in a narrative, that explains each premise (not in order), but it's there.

This is the short argument, doesn't mean that each premise cannot be elaborated on (I did that in the other thread).

(September 11, 2017 at 8:47 am)mh.brewer Wrote: There is no ultimate goodness, it does not exist. That's why the initial premise is faulty. It is fantasy delusion. All you have is a make believe connection.

You'd be better off making a connection with Superman.

You can't deny conclusion in an argument. You have to deal with the premises. So are you saying we can know something about ultimate highest goodness possible without a connection to it?

If I find the first premise faulty then there is no argument/proof. Any conclusion made from a faulty premise is also faulty. 

There is no "ultimate highest goodness". That is something you've made up in your head. It does not exist, or exists only for you in your made up fantasy.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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Very short version of the long argument. - by MysticKnight - September 11, 2017 at 8:17 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Alex K - September 11, 2017 at 8:25 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by MysticKnight - September 11, 2017 at 8:32 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Alex K - September 11, 2017 at 10:05 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by brewer - September 11, 2017 at 8:33 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by MysticKnight - September 11, 2017 at 8:35 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by brewer - September 11, 2017 at 8:37 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by MysticKnight - September 11, 2017 at 8:39 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by brewer - September 11, 2017 at 8:47 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by bennyboy - September 11, 2017 at 12:21 pm
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by MysticKnight - September 12, 2017 at 2:19 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by LadyForCamus - September 12, 2017 at 6:54 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by MysticKnight - September 12, 2017 at 7:40 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by LadyForCamus - September 12, 2017 at 9:29 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by MysticKnight - September 13, 2017 at 7:48 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Astreja - September 11, 2017 at 3:21 pm
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by bennyboy - September 11, 2017 at 8:39 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Athene - September 11, 2017 at 8:44 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by MysticKnight - September 11, 2017 at 8:45 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Athene - September 11, 2017 at 8:52 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by MysticKnight - September 11, 2017 at 9:02 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Athene - September 11, 2017 at 9:15 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Cyberman - September 11, 2017 at 9:20 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by MysticKnight - September 11, 2017 at 9:22 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Cyberman - September 11, 2017 at 9:29 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by MysticKnight - September 11, 2017 at 8:47 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by brewer - September 11, 2017 at 9:03 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Edwardo Piet - September 11, 2017 at 12:39 pm
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Cyberman - September 11, 2017 at 9:24 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by MysticKnight - September 11, 2017 at 9:40 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Edwardo Piet - September 11, 2017 at 9:26 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Cyberman - September 11, 2017 at 9:48 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by MysticKnight - September 11, 2017 at 9:51 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Cyberman - September 11, 2017 at 9:52 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Edwardo Piet - September 11, 2017 at 9:53 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Edwardo Piet - September 11, 2017 at 10:07 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Minimalist - September 11, 2017 at 12:32 pm
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by LadyForCamus - September 11, 2017 at 1:53 pm
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Succubus - September 11, 2017 at 2:24 pm
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Astonished - September 12, 2017 at 1:14 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Minimalist - September 12, 2017 at 1:49 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Edwardo Piet - September 13, 2017 at 2:36 pm
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Crossless2.0 - September 14, 2017 at 11:33 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Edwardo Piet - September 15, 2017 at 12:57 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by ignoramus - September 12, 2017 at 7:58 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by MysticKnight - September 12, 2017 at 8:11 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by WinterHold - September 13, 2017 at 8:53 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Astreja - September 13, 2017 at 8:59 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by WinterHold - September 13, 2017 at 9:43 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Whateverist - September 13, 2017 at 12:11 pm
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by WinterHold - September 13, 2017 at 12:51 pm
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Cyberman - September 13, 2017 at 12:54 pm
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by WinterHold - September 13, 2017 at 1:11 pm
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Cyberman - September 13, 2017 at 1:41 pm
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by WinterHold - September 13, 2017 at 1:50 pm
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Cyberman - September 13, 2017 at 3:08 pm
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by The Valkyrie - September 13, 2017 at 3:44 pm
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Edwardo Piet - September 14, 2017 at 8:34 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by LadyForCamus - September 14, 2017 at 10:28 am

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