RE: Regarding The Flap Over Confederate Statues
September 14, 2017 at 12:27 am
(This post was last modified: September 14, 2017 at 1:11 am by Thumpalumpacus.)
(September 14, 2017 at 12:06 am)bennyboy Wrote:(September 13, 2017 at 11:16 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I'll take "category error" for $500.
You're quoting national statistics for a local opinion. Once more, sloppy thinking.
Dude, stop.
I've said I'm trying to find polls from Charlottesville, and these are the only numbers I could find so far.
It's been stated that the people of Charlottesville want the statue removed. I'm attempting to determine whether that is, in fact, the case.
Let's see what you find, then. And in the meantime, you can offer your opinion from, what is it, Korea, right?
(September 14, 2017 at 12:18 am)Rev. Rye Wrote:(September 14, 2017 at 12:07 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Yes, and it's exactly the same category error. If we wish to take the measure of local opinion, we'll need to access local opinion.
And at least I pointed out the limitations of that poll. I suspect that a proper poll limited to Charlottesville residents might exist, but it's likely been buried underneath all the rhetoric. And if a commission formed by the Charlottesville city council convinced them it would be a good idea, maybe it's less lopsided than it appears. I strongly suspect that a proper poll, if it exists, may really be hard to find if that poll (with all its acknowledged limitations) was the best I could do.
Then again, whether or not the larger populace really wanted it gone, the city council definitely voted against it, and, legally, it's much the same thing. Perhaps it's a limitation of representative democracy, or maybe it's representative democracy working the way it should.
Forgive my pointing out the obvious, but world opinions aren't local, and posting them is not really pertinent when the question is what the locals would do.
(September 14, 2017 at 12:12 am)bennyboy Wrote: One of the prevailing points of this thread has been that, my beliefs about symbolism and free speech aside, the residents of Charlottesville want the statue gone. Are you saying that this point was made without anyone actually checking to see if that was the case?
I didn't say that the residents of Charlottesville wanted it gone. I said that their feelings should be considered -- all of their opinions. I offered my opinion on the matter, which is that such statuary is a needlessly obnoxious intrusion into public life which works to deepen rather than shrink the divisions in our society.
Are we clear now?
