Regarding The Flap Over Confederate Statues

[bennyboy]

These would all be poor arguments even if they weren't racists...it's not because they're racists that these are poor arguments.  As the many responses you;ve recieved to them have tried to explain.  In this instance, you would have people believe that you incidentally agreed with racists.  That the shit they use as a set of talking points...which you have contained yourself to in the discussion of the issue, is also..apparrently, incidental.

Given two parties who think it's better to keep statues up, even controversial ones, wouldn't you expect a lot of the arguments to overlap?

I offer this not to suggest that you're a racist, by association or otherwise, but to suggest that you're a normal human being upon whom the campaign to normalize racism through genteel talking points has worked.  It's expected to work.  That's why it's done.  Mission accomplished.

Yep, that's me. An impressionable, easily-swayed idiot who thinks his brainwashers' ideas are his own.

As to the turn the conversation has taken......it doesn't matter an ounce whether or not the local racists love the shit out of them.  Oh I'm sorry, excuse me.  The freedom loving statue enthusiasts trying to save our history.

This is something nobody has really said so far, I think: what if most of Charlottesville ARE racists, and if they voted on the removal, it would be 80% in favor of keeping it where it is? Then what? Do we still demand that the statues be removed, because fuck the majority, some ideas are just more right than others? This very much does seem to be the case-- I doubt very much that the majority of the citizens of Charlottesville are offended by a R. E. Lee statue, and I even suppose that you might find that more than 50% consider him a truly great man worth memorializing.