(September 14, 2017 at 7:28 pm)Khemikal Wrote:Indeed those statues have nothing to do with history it's propaganda plain and simple. To sell a noble myth to southerners .(September 14, 2017 at 7:23 pm)bennyboy Wrote: That's a bullshit argument. You acknowledge "actual history" by engraving a set of tablets with the Robert E. Lee wikipedia page, so people can read and understand exactly what he was, what he did, and how he's currently viewed by different segments of society.That's not what any of those statues do..and I;ve linked monuments, which do exist, that do exactly that. They justr arent civil rights era monuments to the lie of the confederate lost cause and it;s heroic patriots.
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Quote:But go ahead, tell me exactly how our accurate view of history will be enriched by removing the statue of a historical figure from public lands. So far, you haven't made this argument in a particularly compelling way.What statues of historical figures? We're not discussing statues of "historical figures". The statues we are discussing are a-hystorical and propagandizing.
Quote:Stop with this false dilemma bullshit: "Either you're against displaying a Robert E. Lee statue, or you are a bigot." That's weak.Your'e the one who's manufacturing the dilemma...which is what I keep trying to stress to you. Personally, I think that you're just another victim of the "counterculture" of white fright and grievance. You tell me that's un-possible because you aren't a sheeple or somesuch.
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