RE: This Has to Stop
September 15, 2017 at 1:08 pm
(This post was last modified: September 15, 2017 at 1:10 pm by Harry Nevis.)
(September 15, 2017 at 11:32 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(September 15, 2017 at 10:29 am)Harry Nevis Wrote: No, you've been TOLD there has to be a beginning point, and you FEEL like there should be a beginning point. You KNOW nothing of the sort.
I've watched a number of times to see what they say and they claim much as fact that in reality isn't. Don't try to excuse their behavior, that type of behavior is what Christians will reject every time.
GC
Pot, meet kettle.
So, whether or not what you're teaching your kids is factual or not (independent of what you believe) is not as important as telling them what you believe is fact.
I'm not sure what you mean about "teaching them as fact."
Obviously, religious belief requires a certain amount faith and hope, because there is no tangible concrete proof.
I'm not going to lie to my child and tell them that I've seen Jesus or God or whatever. But i do plan on explaining why i have full confidence in their existance.
And i do plan on raising my kids, if I have any, in the faith and with chirstian principles. At some point during their growth out of childhood they will, of course, have to decide for themselves whether they share my confidence in the existence of God or not. Just as all children will have to eventually decide for themselves whether they agreed with all the principles and values their parents brought them up with, not just pertaining to religion.
When you say this is child abuse, you are accusing a very very large group of people, most of whom are perfectly good and decent people, of being child abusers and of abusing their own children. Few things are worse than abusing children, and you are putting that extremely ugly label on good people simply because you don't have the same beliefs as them. I don't see how that is at all logical, much less tolerant or charitable.
I bet you don't say that you just believe what you do, many more people don't share your beliefs, and there is no concrete evidence for any supernatural claims in the bible. Young kids take what their parents teach them as facts. The more they buy into it, the more their critical thinking skills are corrupted. Other principals and values don't have eternal punishment waiting for those who don't follow them. It IS abuse, whether you like the word or not.
And it's not that they simply don't have the same beliefs as I do. It's because doing this at an age before kids learn to reason is harmful.
(September 15, 2017 at 11:32 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Meh, you already called my mom and dad child abusers. Call me a cunt all you want, there's nothing more nasty you can say to me than to accuse 2 good people I love so dearly of abusing children.
You too hung up on the common meaning of the word and not the reasons it is used.
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing." - Samuel Porter Putnam