(September 22, 2017 at 11:11 am)Little Rik Wrote:(September 22, 2017 at 10:34 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: Suppose god is an unintelligent space slug who created the universe accidentally by taking a poop made of enough antimatter to unravel and re-start the universe. What then, Rik? You ever think of that?
An unintelligent space slug can not possibly create a huge and complex universe with intelligent life in it.
(Don't get excited Pinky, I didn't say that you are intelligent)
Have you ever seen a donkey give birth to a human being?
So a slug will give birth to a similar slug not to a human being.![]()
Failed analogy mate.
(September 22, 2017 at 11:06 am)mlmooney89 Wrote: Just to be clear do you think you can feel Paris getting closer?
If someone bound you gagged you and dump you in a freight wagons it will be very hard to know where you are going but if you on your free will decide to travel to Paris then is obvious that you feel your goal within.
Rik, intelligence is NOT required for evolution to occur anymore than Thor is needed as a gap answer to explain the existence of lightening. Just like you accept, and rightfully so, Poseidon is not needed as a gap answer to explain the existence of hurricanes.
The problem you have with "everything has a creator" causes the problem of infinite regress when you postulate an all powerful cognition as the factory boss. Well, if everything has a creator, then that creator has an even more infinitely complex creator, and that creator has even more complexity, and that creator even more, and so on and so on and so on.
So if you want to claim your God was not created, then the more simplistic solution to the universe is that it doesn't need a cognition to lead to it either.
But please spare us from trying to square an old book of mythology to modern science. That was then, this is now. It was understandable that people wrote, sold and bought that crap back then because they didn't know any better, we do know better now.
What would be so frightening to you to find out you are finite? How would life after you die feel any differently than you felt 4 billion years ago?