(September 24, 2017 at 10:15 am)Astonished Wrote:(September 24, 2017 at 8:35 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: After explaining to you what i meant about conveying my beliefs to my children, you still went on to accuse me of child abuse, accuse my mom and dad of child abuse and called them assholes, and called me a hypocrite, lying, cunt. You also clearly stated you hate all theists.
I can quote those if you want. Now, after not getting much support from your hateful, bigoted views, you're trying to back track.
Because all theists are uniformly delusional about at least one thing, and are collectively contributing to the perpetuation of a cancerous ideology; that's where the hate comes from. Even if you're one of the fair-weather ones, you're at least lending support simply in terms of numbers to the corruption and violence at the heart of it (especially if you're not a non-denominational sect, like, say, a member of the church responsible for the systematic rape of little boys who have yet to face any consequences for it). Those arguments ad populum are a good way for someone to bolster their own beliefs rather than actually take the extra time to question and examine them critically. Maybe if y'all were in the minority, things would look different and it wouldn't be so easy to ignore what's right in front of you.
Your beliefs being as unshakeable as they are in the face of everything IS a result of indoctrination, although it's probably of the more passive variety that I had previously thought was a more harmless type, ergo your parents did indoctrinate you whether they intended to or not (and given your inability to recognize this, even 'teaching' it to your kids is likely to have the same effect, upon reflection). A zombie bite is still from a zombie, so make of that what you will about the people who sowed those seeds in your mind. So there's not exactly much hope for you not continuing the cycle of brainwashing when you won't acknowledge the effect we're all pointing out. Even with the best of intentions, the results speak for themselves. I actually learned something from this thread, that even as hard-assed as I am about this subject, I wasn't being hard enough on it about even the passive introduction of religious teachings.
Here's the thing, though; I was able to break out of the passive teaching method easily enough. So, I would guess, was my mom, but my grandma and uncle were fanatical about faith and I'm fortunate they didn't have as much time around me as that or it might have been more problematic. But at least there's a better chance someone with a precocious predisposition will end up being more critical of or outright rejecting faith when presented with it in a more passive form, so in those instances, I can be fine with pointing and laughing at a parent who fails to instill that in their child, whereas someone like Ken Ham, (and this is where the hyperbole comes, just so we're clear) I'd give anything for five minutes alone with him and a bag of rusty razor blades.
Are you sure you are an atheist?