(September 24, 2017 at 1:23 pm)emjay Wrote:(September 24, 2017 at 12:51 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Let it be known that it never bothered me and still doesn't bother me that you are atheist and that you don't like/agree with Christianity. What upset me on a personal level is that we started off as friends on these forums. We sent each other nice PMs, we had long conversations on skype, played mafia together, and we even video chatted a number of times. You were someone I considered a "forum friend", and I liked you. So to see you giving support to the sentiment that I'm a would be child abuser, and all the other horrible things this person said to me and about my parents, really caught me off guard and gave off the vibe that you don't feel the same way about me anymore. I admit the unrep was childish, but I guess it was my way of saying, "ok, I guess we aren't on the terms I thought we were."
Also, I don't make up my own religion. I'm catholic. And if there is anything in catholic teaching you think I cherry pick or am wishy washy about, then please be the first to point it out by copying and pasting from church document exactly what I am going against.
I wasn't supporting his specific argument against you... just the general argument of this thread. I did not call you an abuser, potential or otherwise, neither did I say the same of my parents. I said that I knew they meant no harm in teaching me about Jesus as I grew up, and the same would be true of you. But regardless of the intentions behind it, the effect on the resulting adult is the same; bias that results from upbringing... bias that acts as a default position moving forward... a default position of emotional bias that has to be constantly fought, that does not stand and cannot be fought on it's own rational merits because it was never acquired rationally in the first place.
As for you making up your own religion, that was just a turn of phrase really... and whether it's you or the whole Catholic church doing it doesn't really matter. What I mean is as soon as any religion starts introducing the notion of 'allegory' it's a slippery slope... where does it end? If the Bible is just true or false, that's at least something consistent to argue against, but if it's just a bit true, then there's nothing consistent to argue with and the goalposts can constantly be shifted.
Fair enough, I suppose I misunderstood.
As for Catholicism, the authority of the Church is above the bible. Our teachings and beliefs are expressed in the Catechism.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
