RE: My Favorite Synthesizer Ever Versus an Electric Bass Guitar:
September 25, 2017 at 7:50 pm
(This post was last modified: September 25, 2017 at 7:58 pm by bennyboy.)
(September 24, 2017 at 7:05 pm)Industrial Lad Wrote: Benny. did you use a physical modelling synth for the violin?
The JP-8000 is the synth I was talking about that is used for all the Supersaw leads. (By artists who have the money for it)
No, the synth was sample-based, with about 5 different sets of samples. A lot of the effects were done by hand. . . carefully adjusting note durations, mixing the different sample types in and out, and most importantly-- learning how a violinist plays-- what chords are possible, impossible, how they play big chords when the bow can at most touch 3 of 4 strings, etc.
The guitar in the first clip, though, was 100% done on a modelling synth called Slayer. You can cover a lot of quirks when you crank up distortion, chorus and reverb!
(September 24, 2017 at 7:48 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I don't think synths get terribly close to the real instruments in many if not most cases.
Even with drums, where the envelope is much easier to copy, the acoustics of the room interacting with the mics -- and the bleed from one mic to the next -- leave tell-tales. Perhaps digital modeling will one day capture that as well, but it hasn't done so for me yet.
Never mind trying to emulate a drunken guitarist jumping around in the same room as a cranked amp.
I think the advancement of high-level electric pianos (like the top Yamaha ones for example) can really show how well they can model features and use them to control sound. For example, if you use gradations of pedal now, you get different sounds-- the sustain pedal is no longer on/off, and they've modeled how each string responds to different levels (high strings get more easily damped than low ones, just like on a muted guitar).
What I haven't found yet, and I admit the new pianos very likely do it, is synthetic vibration. On a piano, if I hold a "C" key down so that it makes no sound, and then hit a lower C, the higher C will start ringing.
As for drunken guitarists moving around in the room-- yeah, good luck modeling any of that, nor probably would they even try. Parts of the human experience are almost guaranteed to be unique, forever.
