Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: June 10, 2024, 1:44 am

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Irony
#18
RE: Irony
(October 4, 2017 at 6:50 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: But there is demonstrable evidence that humans actually exist. And also, that electronic communications actually exist.

All we have from you, is a feeling you get in your brain.

Tell you what, next time you are conversing with god, ask him what is the single best argument and evidence to convince us of his existence. I am sure you will agree, a god that can create and maintain the universe, should easily be able to provide you with the answer.

Obviously you have never asked him this, because ALL the arguments you have ever posted here, are fatally flawed and fallacious.

Actually you got it all wrong; and got my belief wrong also.

Belief is something personal that only you can begin. According to how I understand my religion. Check this verse from the Quran:


Quote:Sura 13, The Quran:

( 31 )   And if there was any qur'an by which the mountains would be removed or the earth would be broken apart or the dead would be made to speak, but to Allah belongs the affair entirely. Then have those who believed not accepted that had Allah willed, He would have guided the people, all of them? And those who disbelieve do not cease to be struck, for what they have done, by calamity - or it will descend near their home - until there comes the promise of Allah. Indeed, Allah does not fail in [His] promise.

And

Quote:Sura 11, The Quran:

( 118 )   And if your Lord had willed, He could have made mankind one community; but they will not cease to differ.
( 119 )   Except whom your Lord has given mercy, and for that He created them. But the word of your Lord is to be fulfilled that, "I will surely fill Hell with jinn and men all together."
( 120 )   And each [story] We relate to you from the news of the messengers is that by which We make firm your heart. And there has come to you, in this, the truth and an instruction and a reminder for the believers.
( 121 )   And say to those who do not believe, "Work according to your position; indeed, we are working.
( 122 )   And wait, indeed, we are waiting."
( 123 )   And to Allah belong the unseen [aspects] of the heavens and the earth and to Him will be returned the matter, all of it, so worship Him and rely upon Him. And your Lord is not unaware of that which you do.

I have no "magical" argument because according to these verses; I understand that the God of Islam himself already created people and difference; knew that some will believe and some won't. But Sura 11 verse 122 is interesting; because it gives a slap to Islamophobia, terrorists, and the "angry Hamza" who wants a global caliphate.

Anyhow; I don't believe Islam is about me, or armies of missionaries bombarding you and atheists with the "magical arguments"; converting you in 3 seconds. Like a bundle at a supermarket: convert an atheist and get another for free.

You can't control people. I'll quote God and say if he had willed; they would've believe. But they would never cease to differ.
But he created for us lots and lots of signs that can lead us to him; the design is just so fantastic. But people have free will; people differ.

Some believe; some don't.
Reply



Messages In This Thread
Irony - by Der/die AtheistIn - September 30, 2017 at 3:32 pm
RE: Irony - by Astonished - October 1, 2017 at 9:12 pm
RE: Irony - by Minimalist - October 1, 2017 at 9:52 pm
RE: Irony - by Fireball - October 1, 2017 at 9:57 pm
RE: Irony - by Der/die AtheistIn - October 2, 2017 at 2:21 pm
RE: Irony - by Brian37 - October 2, 2017 at 2:32 pm
RE: Irony - by Astonished - October 2, 2017 at 9:40 pm
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 4, 2017 at 1:53 pm
RE: Irony - by The Grand Nudger - October 4, 2017 at 2:00 pm
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 4, 2017 at 3:01 pm
RE: Irony - by The Grand Nudger - October 4, 2017 at 3:07 pm
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 4, 2017 at 4:20 pm
RE: Irony - by Cyberman - October 4, 2017 at 4:35 pm
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 4, 2017 at 4:43 pm
RE: Irony - by Cyberman - October 4, 2017 at 5:09 pm
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 4, 2017 at 5:29 pm
RE: Irony - by Simon Moon - October 4, 2017 at 6:50 pm
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 4, 2017 at 7:14 pm
RE: Irony - by Cyberman - October 4, 2017 at 8:48 pm
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 4, 2017 at 9:51 pm
RE: Irony - by Cyberman - October 4, 2017 at 10:08 pm
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 4, 2017 at 10:33 pm
RE: Irony - by Cyberman - October 4, 2017 at 11:57 pm
RE: Irony - by Astonished - October 5, 2017 at 12:04 am
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 5, 2017 at 12:15 am
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 5, 2017 at 12:11 am
RE: Irony - by Astonished - October 5, 2017 at 12:14 am
RE: Irony - by Cyberman - October 5, 2017 at 4:17 pm
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 5, 2017 at 11:04 pm
RE: Irony - by Astonished - October 4, 2017 at 8:19 pm
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 4, 2017 at 9:33 pm
RE: Irony - by Astonished - October 4, 2017 at 9:48 pm
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 4, 2017 at 10:05 pm
RE: Irony - by Astonished - October 4, 2017 at 10:28 pm
RE: Irony - by Astonished - October 4, 2017 at 9:52 pm
RE: Irony - by Astonished - October 4, 2017 at 10:41 pm
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 4, 2017 at 10:49 pm
RE: Irony - by Astonished - October 4, 2017 at 10:59 pm
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 4, 2017 at 11:45 pm
RE: Irony - by The Grand Nudger - October 4, 2017 at 10:45 pm
RE: Irony - by The Grand Nudger - October 4, 2017 at 10:50 pm
RE: Irony - by Astonished - October 4, 2017 at 11:46 pm
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 4, 2017 at 11:57 pm
RE: Irony - by Cyberman - October 5, 2017 at 12:08 am
RE: Irony - by Astonished - October 5, 2017 at 12:11 am
RE: Irony - by Cyberman - October 5, 2017 at 12:20 am
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 5, 2017 at 2:35 am
RE: Irony - by Cyberman - October 5, 2017 at 12:53 pm
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 5, 2017 at 1:48 pm
RE: Irony - by Cyberman - October 5, 2017 at 12:21 am
RE: Irony - by Astonished - October 5, 2017 at 12:23 am
RE: Irony - by Cyberman - October 5, 2017 at 12:27 am
RE: Irony - by SaStrike - October 5, 2017 at 7:48 am
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 5, 2017 at 12:51 pm
RE: Irony - by Cyberman - October 5, 2017 at 2:12 pm
RE: Irony - by Cyberman - October 5, 2017 at 11:08 pm
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 5, 2017 at 11:44 pm
RE: Irony - by Astonished - October 6, 2017 at 1:12 am
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 6, 2017 at 3:34 am
RE: Irony - by Astonished - October 6, 2017 at 11:10 pm
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 6, 2017 at 11:16 pm
RE: Irony - by Astonished - October 6, 2017 at 11:24 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  The irony behind religion Dystopia 11 3015 July 11, 2014 at 7:48 pm
Last Post: BrianSoddingBoru4
  Thick, delicious irony Cyberman 39 8885 May 13, 2013 at 3:57 pm
Last Post: Cyberman
  Oh the Irony Gooders1002 1 1038 March 12, 2013 at 5:10 pm
Last Post: Napoléon
  Cardinal Pell;my irony meter broke Oldandeasilyconfused 11 3687 May 5, 2011 at 2:31 pm
Last Post: reverendjeremiah



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)