(October 4, 2017 at 4:20 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:Get rekt.(October 4, 2017 at 3:07 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Oh, it's just like that is it? You text him, he texts you. Every once in awhile there's a message on your voicemail. You take a call and chat with him about lunch. How long do you plan on selling this lie?I'm comparing wireless communication to a heavenly one. Back in the past; people couldn't even imagine that their grandchildren will talk to other humans across the globe. Saying that it's "possible" meant that the person behind the claim will be a joke; or in some ancient societies: a Kebab on a stake.
But surprisingly, humanity literally saw that this is so possible; and the "shame of the past" became the "stuff you pay lots of money for in universities".
It's not a lie; but it's the simple separation in paths: it is proved -even scientifically- that we have no idea about what is out there beyond space; there is a beyond and we proved it; so either:
1-I believe something is out there; and it made things the way they are
2-I don't believe something is out there
Not a lie; K.
A simple choice. Look for lies in the acts of those who use the above to gain profit. But even aliens are believable now with all the discoveries taking place.
Quote:Can you..do you believe that the iphone is the author of the cosmos...or....?
No !
When the phone "rings"; and you "pick it up"; a neanderthal would look at you and think that you are the crazy "man" talking to blocks of plastic !!
Quote:You're clearly compelled to provide a list of lies the religious sell........though I don't think that you gave as much effort to the last five as you did the first two.
How?
Quote:1-Salvation is guaranteed if you "listen to the institution they represent; because their institution=God's servants on earth".
2-That they have ID cards that logs them into "paradise".
3-They always kill you if you convert to other faiths; or in other cases harass you.
4-They always sell people "imaginary keys" to forgiveness; from the Christian "confession" rooms to the "Islamic Sunni/Shiite martyrdom".
5-All the above is "written as a fact" in many of the books that "these religious people believe". That's the big nasty lie.
1-
https://islamqa.info/en/96531
2-
https://islamqa.info/en/96531
(Same link)
3-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam
4-
https://sunnah.com/riyadussaliheen/20
5-I brought links from the official books of Sunnies. Believe me; you don't wanna read what I read from Shiites books too in Arabic.
I know too that the Bible is full of similar stuff. Of course; the Quran has nothing related.
Not lies; K. Just research probably.
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