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Views beyond Atheism
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RE: Views beyond Atheism
I think the problem is that with how 'popular' religion is and how it's like a virus all over the world (it's bloody everywhere) it's very hard to have every single religion person NOT shove their views down people's throats. I mean, it's bound to happen, and in fact - the bible kind of encourages converting, etc, doesn't it? For example?

I mean with a lot of religions (especially the Abrahamic ones) I think if they are practised fundamentally then that is pretty much bound to happen.

I think religion itself has a negative impact on the world, not the people so much because the people vary. Some people force it down others throats, some don't. But if there's no religion to 'force down' then it couldn't happen.

Some religions are more like that for a start - and some are more liberal.

I think the thing is that when you actually believe in that bullshit it doesn't have a good effect on you. Either it's harmless bullshit or harmful bullshit. And if it was harmful but NOT bullshit then that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing because if its harmful but not bullshit then that would imply it would be worth it/harmful for a good reason I think. I.E - if the truth hurts then it's still the truth.

If some medical procedures hurt then that doesn't mean they're not a good thing, for example. If they're bullshit however (i.e. they don't work) then the procedure can only be a bad thing. Totally unnecessarily harmful at worst, a waste of time and/or mild annoyance at best.

I think the fact it's bullshit and a distortion of the truth, makes it harmful (religion that is). I don't think it would be very easy to have so many people forcing religion down people's throats if there was no religion! And also, I think the fact it's all over the place ('popular' lol) and is total bullshit; and some of the stuff religion says - I think that makes it pretty difficult for you to NOT get people forcing it down your throats, as I said.

Besides - believing so passionately with unquestioning faith itself motivates people to 'force it down' I think. They are convinced they are right and their 'faith' will not be reasoned with because 'faith' trumps all. Some are peaceful about it and keep it to themselves - some don't.

In an ideal world it would be nice yes, if EVERY religious people could keep it to themselves (although I personally think it would be nicer if everyone appreciated the truth and didn't have to believe such stupid bullshit) - but I think that's just that, in an ideal world. It's idealistic - I don't think practically it's going to happen.

While religion is around being driven by unquestioning 'faith' that many religious people are Oh so passionate about - I think there will always be religious nutjobs and/or religious people shoving (or trying to shove) their religion down people's throats.

So not only do I think it would simply be better if everyone didn't believe in bullshit - I think that the only real way to get rid of all the religious evil in the world and the religious nutjobs - is if religion itself came to an end (or pretty much).

I'd only wish this by entirely non-violent means though. Unless there was a religious war and everyone had to defend themselves and their religion or something like that lol.

Not that I see religion ever leaving - despite the fact I find it interesting, I'd rather it wasn't here.

Besides, you can totally find religion an interesting subject without believing it. I mean look at Greek, Norse, Egyptian mythology etc- many people find that interesting (as do I)....not many people believe in it lol Smile

EvF
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Views beyond Atheism - by Sponge - May 10, 2009 at 5:53 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2009 at 6:10 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by WWLD - May 10, 2009 at 6:22 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2009 at 6:30 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by WWLD - May 10, 2009 at 6:33 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 10, 2009 at 7:25 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Sponge - May 10, 2009 at 7:36 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2009 at 7:50 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Sponge - May 10, 2009 at 7:55 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 10, 2009 at 8:09 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2009 at 8:10 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 10, 2009 at 8:14 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2009 at 8:22 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Sponge - May 10, 2009 at 8:16 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Demonaura - May 10, 2009 at 8:27 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Sponge - May 10, 2009 at 8:30 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2009 at 8:31 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Tiberius - May 10, 2009 at 8:36 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Sponge - May 10, 2009 at 8:38 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 12, 2009 at 5:43 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 10, 2009 at 8:38 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2009 at 8:45 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 10, 2009 at 8:54 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2009 at 9:02 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by leo-rcc - May 11, 2009 at 4:30 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Giff - May 11, 2009 at 7:56 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 11, 2009 at 8:03 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by g-mark - May 11, 2009 at 8:07 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 11, 2009 at 8:25 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Giff - May 11, 2009 at 8:12 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Giff - May 11, 2009 at 8:27 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 11, 2009 at 8:38 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 11, 2009 at 5:05 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 11, 2009 at 5:19 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 11, 2009 at 6:53 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 11, 2009 at 8:04 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Giff - May 12, 2009 at 4:06 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 12, 2009 at 2:56 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 12, 2009 at 3:55 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 12, 2009 at 4:09 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 12, 2009 at 7:14 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Sam - May 12, 2009 at 5:21 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 12, 2009 at 7:24 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 12, 2009 at 7:48 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 12, 2009 at 7:54 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 12, 2009 at 8:01 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 12, 2009 at 8:05 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 12, 2009 at 8:10 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 12, 2009 at 8:22 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 12, 2009 at 8:33 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 12, 2009 at 8:44 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 13, 2009 at 6:16 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 13, 2009 at 6:26 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 13, 2009 at 6:59 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 13, 2009 at 7:08 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 13, 2009 at 7:25 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Giff - May 14, 2009 at 4:04 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 14, 2009 at 3:55 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 14, 2009 at 7:52 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Giff - May 14, 2009 at 9:46 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 14, 2009 at 9:58 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by g-mark - May 14, 2009 at 11:10 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Kyuuketsuki - May 14, 2009 at 3:34 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 14, 2009 at 3:58 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 14, 2009 at 5:37 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 14, 2009 at 6:21 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 15, 2009 at 3:46 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 15, 2009 at 3:51 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 15, 2009 at 4:14 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 15, 2009 at 7:14 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 16, 2009 at 2:55 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 16, 2009 at 7:16 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 17, 2009 at 5:52 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 17, 2009 at 8:54 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 17, 2009 at 1:12 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Darwinian - May 17, 2009 at 1:15 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Kyuuketsuki - May 17, 2009 at 3:10 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 17, 2009 at 1:34 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 17, 2009 at 2:27 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 17, 2009 at 3:01 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 17, 2009 at 3:45 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 17, 2009 at 4:07 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Kyuuketsuki - May 17, 2009 at 5:11 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 17, 2009 at 6:41 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 17, 2009 at 7:04 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 18, 2009 at 4:42 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 18, 2009 at 11:03 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 19, 2009 at 3:42 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 19, 2009 at 6:40 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 20, 2009 at 1:52 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by g-mark - May 20, 2009 at 2:01 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 20, 2009 at 2:35 pm

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