RE: Bible reading
October 18, 2017 at 3:51 pm
(This post was last modified: October 18, 2017 at 3:55 pm by John V.)
(October 18, 2017 at 3:42 pm)c152 Wrote: If "me" as an autonomous being can exist created by a god with the attributes you ascribe him then yes, my argument fails
Yep.
Quote:which is why I said it in the first place. The point is that you wouldn't know that because your god would always be one step ahead of you no matter what.
No clue what that means.
Quote:And yes, his actions are still immoral by the standards we hold. Isn't it immoral to torture your creations? Just because you created something doesn't give you the right to hurt it according to our modern values.
Not sure which scenario you're referring to at this point so I'll respond to both:
If no free will, then no, it's no more immoral than throwing a piece of wood in the fire.
If free will, then god isn't forcing people to fight for any reason, and we're culpable for our own actions..
(October 18, 2017 at 3:49 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: I'm 58. I make extra money playing the organ.
The whole Bible lacks a clear paragraph. It's all open to interpretation. Even the parts that people might think are clear - if you read them literally, that is.
And? I'd say that's hyperbole, but considering Prov 25:2 it shouldn't be unexpected.
Quote:The Catholics claim that the Apostle's Creed is not
Not what?
Quote: - but I know priests who laugh about parts of it.
So what?