(October 18, 2017 at 3:51 pm)alpha male Wrote:(October 18, 2017 at 3:42 pm)c152 Wrote: If "me" as an autonomous being can exist created by a god with the attributes you ascribe him then yes, my argument fails
Yep.
Quote:which is why I said it in the first place. The point is that you wouldn't know that because your god would always be one step ahead of you no matter what.
No clue what that means.
Quote:And yes, his actions are still immoral by the standards we hold. Isn't it immoral to torture your creations? Just because you created something doesn't give you the right to hurt it according to our modern values.
Not sure which scenario you're referring to at this point so I'll respond to both:
If no free will, then no, it's no more immoral than throwing a piece of wood in the fire.
If free will, then god isn't forcing people to fight for any reason, and we're culpable for our own actions..
I made my argument falsifiable, not my fault you don't see what I'm getting at.
And yes, it's still immoral by our standards but apparently not by yours.
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