Bible reading

[drfuzzy]

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If "me" as an autonomous being can exist created by a god with the attributes you ascribe him then yes, my argument fails

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Yep.

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which is why I said it in the first place. The point is that you wouldn't know that because your god would always be one step ahead of you no matter what. 

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No clue what that means.

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And yes, his actions are still immoral by the standards we hold. Isn't it immoral to torture your creations? Just because you created something doesn't give you the right to hurt it according to our modern values.

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Not sure which scenario you're referring to at this point so I'll respond to both:

If no free will, then no, it's no more immoral than throwing a piece of wood in the fire.

If free will, then god isn't forcing people to fight for any reason, and we're culpable for our own actions..

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I'm 58.  I make extra money playing the organ.  
The whole Bible lacks a clear paragraph.  It's all open to interpretation.  Even the parts that people might think are clear - if you read them literally, that is. 

And? I'd say that's hyperbole, but considering Prov 25:2 it shouldn't be unexpected.  
It is the glory of god to conceal a thing.     Yep.  Total bullshit.  But haven't we already agreed that god didn't write the Bible?
 

The Catholics claim that the Apostle's Creed is not

Not what?  Ah, some claim that it is perfect and infallible.  (lol)  You wanted a clear paragraph.  Well, ok.  If you're gonna call yourself a Cat'lick you have to agree with most of the crap in that particular paragraph.  

- but I know priests who laugh about parts of it. 

So what?  It's interesting to hear the witch doctors mocking the main tenets of the bullshit they are peddling, that's all.

So what?  What are we arguing about here?  That you think the Wholly Babble is something to follow for some reason and I think it's literary puke?  To each their own.
Because you seem to think a deity exists and I'm relatively sure that no such creature has ever existed?  So what?