Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil.

[paulpablo]

This is false.

The reason why there is a debate is purely because there's two opposing claims.  The debate is whether or not sexuality is a choice.

No, it would have been more on the lines "it is not wrong if there is free-will or not free-will involved for certain, so why does it matter if free-will is involved in choice or not" and if people really felt strongly that if it is done by free-will as a factor, then it would not be evil, people would not care for the free-will factor at all. 

The very fact they resort to making it an exception to free-will, shows they know it is wrong if free-will is a major factor and it comes down to a choice of the state of the person (even if a very long choice with many psychological factors).

And the question is really, how and why we know this. It is our knowledge of good and evil, and everything possible of free-will to choose and is evil, is in fact really actually possible for it to choose.

That is why I spoke about the story of people of Lut in Quran, because it puts into the worse context. A context where people were choosing this to the extent the society men became lustful towards men instead of women and began to justify other crimes.

I know no one accepts this story as probable or even historically possible, but it is no doubt philosophically possible.   So the sin shown philosophically, going back the premises of what is rationally possible of free-will to do of evil, is in fact actually possible of free-will to do of evil.

I hope for an honest discussion but won't hold my breath!

You will get an honest discussion, believe me.

What you said here is wrong.

I am telling you that I believe sexual actions are overwhelming a result of sexuality and that sexuality in my opinion overwhelmingly not a choice.

There might be some exceptions, there's usually exceptions to any kind of behavior or tendency, someone might go gay for pay, or gay due to some circumstances or whatever, but mostly people are gay because of their built in biology, it's how their brains are wired.

When I tell you it's my opinion that being gay is overwhelmingly not a choice I'm not resorting to making sexuality exempt from free will.

I don't care, at all, not 1%, if homosexuality is free will or not.  I have nothing to gain either way.  

What I'm doing is telling you my opinion.  It's also based on the fact that I've been staring at girls I found attractive since I was around 5 or 6 years old, beyond that I remember the first female celebrity I got obsessed with at around age 9, when I first found out about vaginas I was obsessed.

In my teen night club years I would go to gay clubs for the cheap beer, I'd hang around with homosexuals, one of my best friends was bi, and as I said now I go on various types of hook up websites and get offered gay sex.

The point being, if homosexuality was a choice, you'd think somewhere along the line as a child I'd at least have looked at another boy, once, just the one time had some sexual thought about a boy.  You'd think that in my teen years I might have acted on it once, I basically used to hang around a miniature society in the form of a night club where most people were gay.  I have been propositioned and offered gay sex, and yet somehow I've managed all these years to always be disgusted by the idea of sex with a man.  

In conclusion this is because of the way my brain is wired.

If it was just like choosing cherry coke or original coke and I've spent my whole life surrounded by both you think I would have tried both at some point.

That's my honest response from me to you.  Why I believe it's not a choice overwhelmingly most of the time, and how I feel I've never chosen my attraction to women.