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Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil.
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil.
(October 22, 2017 at 5:18 am)emjay Wrote:
(October 22, 2017 at 4:43 am)Hammy Wrote: There may be some environmental factors but I doubt it and that makes zero sense to me. Sexuality just seems to be innate.

And aside from "makes zero sense to me" and "just seems".... the important part is that the scientific evidence is strongly in favor of the belief that homosexuality is indeed genetic and innate.

Well, in my view it's only apparently innate, or as good as innate, from a first person perspective. Ie you hit puberty and start having all these feelings and desires you never had before; in either case they come out of nowhere experientially/subjectively, but in your view (if I understand correctly) their source is genetic, but in my view, they are the result of prior environmental learning that has been going on since birth... maybe some genetics as well but as I said I lean more towards nurture/environmental learning. Either way, by the time they appear consciously they're pretty much fixed, with further learning/experience only steering their further development. So either way there's no difference between the net result; something that feels innate.

"Sex/intercourse" is innate in my perspective. But choosing the mate that would get the organ ready for operation (in the case of men: penetration); is up to what the brain is used to; in terms of Dopamine producing triggers defined through the neuron networks formed by the experiences of the person.

Genetics are the triggers of that, and that's the innate perspective in it all. Yes; according to the environment, your brain would form the network to satisfy what it learned through the day.

I won't say conscious appearance of the choice means its fixed. I prefer to think that we can affect any part of our consciousness anytime we want.
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Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by MysticKnight - October 19, 2017 at 7:02 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by AFTT47 - October 19, 2017 at 7:17 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Minimalist - October 19, 2017 at 7:23 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 19, 2017 at 7:22 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by ignoramus - October 19, 2017 at 7:30 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by chimp3 - October 19, 2017 at 7:22 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Succubus - October 19, 2017 at 7:26 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Succubus - October 19, 2017 at 7:30 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 19, 2017 at 11:36 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Succubus - October 19, 2017 at 7:32 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 20, 2017 at 12:28 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Astreja - October 20, 2017 at 12:33 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 20, 2017 at 12:36 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by brewer - October 19, 2017 at 7:26 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 19, 2017 at 7:40 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Fireball - October 19, 2017 at 8:17 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by AFTT47 - October 19, 2017 at 8:31 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Minimalist - October 19, 2017 at 8:32 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by c152 - October 19, 2017 at 8:44 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by c152 - October 19, 2017 at 9:07 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by AFTT47 - October 19, 2017 at 9:54 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by AFTT47 - October 20, 2017 at 12:14 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 20, 2017 at 4:35 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 19, 2017 at 11:22 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 19, 2017 at 10:00 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by drfuzzy - October 19, 2017 at 10:27 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Whateverist - October 19, 2017 at 10:42 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by vorlon13 - October 19, 2017 at 11:13 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 19, 2017 at 11:20 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Cyberman - October 19, 2017 at 11:56 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Fireball - October 20, 2017 at 1:10 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by ignoramus - October 20, 2017 at 3:40 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by paulpablo - October 20, 2017 at 2:34 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 20, 2017 at 8:59 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 20, 2017 at 9:37 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 20, 2017 at 9:57 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 20, 2017 at 10:12 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 20, 2017 at 9:44 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 20, 2017 at 10:02 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by paulpablo - October 20, 2017 at 9:52 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by bennyboy - October 20, 2017 at 2:49 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by bennyboy - October 20, 2017 at 4:28 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by ignoramus - October 20, 2017 at 4:05 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by SaStrike - October 20, 2017 at 4:48 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by chimp3 - October 20, 2017 at 4:56 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Succubus - October 20, 2017 at 5:39 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by drfuzzy - October 20, 2017 at 10:53 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Aroura - October 20, 2017 at 5:45 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Cyberman - October 20, 2017 at 6:12 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Cyberman - October 20, 2017 at 6:24 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by drfuzzy - October 20, 2017 at 12:25 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Astreja - October 20, 2017 at 1:27 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by ignoramus - October 20, 2017 at 7:28 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Succubus - October 20, 2017 at 2:54 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Minimalist - October 20, 2017 at 3:22 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by AFTT47 - October 20, 2017 at 3:25 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Fireball - October 20, 2017 at 4:40 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Silver - October 20, 2017 at 7:21 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Fireball - October 20, 2017 at 8:26 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Pat Mustard - October 21, 2017 at 10:31 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Losty - October 20, 2017 at 2:58 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Nay_Sayer - October 20, 2017 at 6:37 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 20, 2017 at 6:45 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Silver - October 20, 2017 at 7:01 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Silver - October 20, 2017 at 7:38 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Silver - October 20, 2017 at 7:55 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Silver - October 20, 2017 at 7:58 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by c172 - October 20, 2017 at 8:03 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Silver - October 20, 2017 at 8:07 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Silver - October 20, 2017 at 8:14 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Silver - October 20, 2017 at 8:21 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 20, 2017 at 8:52 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by AFTT47 - October 20, 2017 at 8:52 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by chimp3 - October 20, 2017 at 8:34 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 20, 2017 at 9:13 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 20, 2017 at 9:53 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 20, 2017 at 9:48 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Silver - October 20, 2017 at 9:43 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Nay_Sayer - October 20, 2017 at 9:56 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 20, 2017 at 10:01 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Losty - October 20, 2017 at 11:46 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by bennyboy - October 21, 2017 at 5:40 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 20, 2017 at 9:59 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 20, 2017 at 9:55 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 20, 2017 at 10:10 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 20, 2017 at 10:15 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Nay_Sayer - October 20, 2017 at 10:15 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 20, 2017 at 10:18 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Nay_Sayer - October 20, 2017 at 10:24 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 21, 2017 at 4:16 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Whateverist - October 20, 2017 at 10:10 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 20, 2017 at 10:14 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 20, 2017 at 10:32 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 20, 2017 at 10:36 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 20, 2017 at 10:50 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 20, 2017 at 10:58 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Succubus - October 20, 2017 at 11:31 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 20, 2017 at 10:27 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 20, 2017 at 10:34 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 20, 2017 at 10:37 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 20, 2017 at 10:41 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Whateverist - October 20, 2017 at 10:15 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 20, 2017 at 10:18 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 20, 2017 at 10:23 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 20, 2017 at 10:29 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 21, 2017 at 12:59 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 20, 2017 at 10:25 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 20, 2017 at 10:27 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Whateverist - October 20, 2017 at 10:31 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Nay_Sayer - October 20, 2017 at 10:31 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Astreja - October 20, 2017 at 11:28 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 20, 2017 at 10:38 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 20, 2017 at 10:40 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 20, 2017 at 10:59 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 20, 2017 at 11:11 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 20, 2017 at 11:06 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Nay_Sayer - October 20, 2017 at 11:11 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 21, 2017 at 12:07 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 21, 2017 at 1:46 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Cyberman - October 21, 2017 at 2:07 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Cyberman - October 21, 2017 at 2:10 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 21, 2017 at 2:27 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Ravenshire - October 21, 2017 at 2:35 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 21, 2017 at 2:39 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 21, 2017 at 3:48 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Cyberman - October 21, 2017 at 3:03 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 21, 2017 at 4:00 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 21, 2017 at 10:11 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by J a c k - October 21, 2017 at 10:46 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 21, 2017 at 3:36 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 21, 2017 at 4:04 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by J a c k - October 21, 2017 at 11:03 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by rexbeccarox - October 21, 2017 at 12:07 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 21, 2017 at 12:21 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by J a c k - October 21, 2017 at 12:35 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 21, 2017 at 4:27 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 21, 2017 at 5:25 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by LastPoet - October 21, 2017 at 6:07 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by LastPoet - October 21, 2017 at 6:24 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 21, 2017 at 7:15 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by LastPoet - October 21, 2017 at 7:25 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 21, 2017 at 7:38 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 21, 2017 at 8:32 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 21, 2017 at 8:55 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by AFTT47 - October 21, 2017 at 7:52 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Nay_Sayer - October 21, 2017 at 10:08 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 21, 2017 at 10:34 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Nay_Sayer - October 21, 2017 at 10:37 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 21, 2017 at 12:50 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by AFTT47 - October 21, 2017 at 1:12 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 21, 2017 at 2:54 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 21, 2017 at 3:00 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Cyberman - October 21, 2017 at 9:54 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Losty - October 23, 2017 at 1:24 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Cyberman - October 21, 2017 at 10:38 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 21, 2017 at 10:49 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 21, 2017 at 11:04 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 22, 2017 at 4:38 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Cyberman - October 21, 2017 at 10:55 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 21, 2017 at 11:10 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 21, 2017 at 11:14 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by AFTT47 - October 21, 2017 at 11:51 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 22, 2017 at 12:14 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by AFTT47 - October 22, 2017 at 1:16 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 22, 2017 at 2:39 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 22, 2017 at 5:21 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 22, 2017 at 5:48 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 22, 2017 at 7:46 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 22, 2017 at 8:41 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 22, 2017 at 8:51 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 22, 2017 at 9:08 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 22, 2017 at 6:18 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 22, 2017 at 5:18 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 22, 2017 at 5:01 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 23, 2017 at 12:01 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by WinterHold - October 22, 2017 at 5:21 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 22, 2017 at 5:49 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 22, 2017 at 8:28 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Nay_Sayer - October 23, 2017 at 12:17 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 22, 2017 at 3:01 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Joods - October 22, 2017 at 5:05 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by drfuzzy - October 22, 2017 at 11:25 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by emjay - October 23, 2017 at 6:02 am
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Losty - October 23, 2017 at 12:30 pm
RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil. - by Silver - October 23, 2017 at 12:34 pm

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