RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil.
October 22, 2017 at 6:18 pm
(This post was last modified: October 22, 2017 at 6:24 pm by WinterHold.)
(October 22, 2017 at 8:41 am)emjay Wrote:Humanity as a whole shows pure hate and judgemental madness. Religious humans are after all; humans.(October 22, 2017 at 7:46 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: Lots of Muslims, and by lots I mean lots; follow bigoted opinions represented in the two main sects composing the majority: Shiite Islam and Sunni Islam.
Despite the severe disasters these terminologies brought upon Muslims; Muslims followed them still.
The problem is with the religion itself... it is pure hate and judgment, so it producing/encouraging bigotry on a large scale comes as no surprise.
They transfer their hate to their religions; producing the hellish Shiite/Sunni/Catholic...etc doctrines.
Quote:That doesn't surprise me in the slightest; wherever there is oppression there will always be resistance and/or people partaking in that which is prohibited; the forbidden fruit syndrome as it were. And the first word that comes to mind for me when I think of Islam is 'oppression'; a religion whose singular aim seems to be to prohibit pretty much everything, require total and absolute conformity from its members, and create a mass of people who are all exactly the same, with any non-conformists severely, and often brutally dealt with. What possible good you see in such a religion is beyond me.
Specify the cult and you'll be more accurate and spot on: Sunni Islam & Shiite Islam are the main issue.
The Sunni/Shiite hadith are mainly the source of these prohibitions, and dictators use them to furthermore extend their grip over the regions where Islam is dominant.
Quote: The problem is, as fair as you want to be to it, IMO you can never really succeed; because whatever you do, you'll always give more weight to some parts than others... and this goes for any religious book.According to my belief:
For instance, say the Bible was reduced to a single word: GOD... you'd still end up with a million different sects/schisms fighting over its true meaning; you'll have G-ians who think the G is all important but the O and D are less so... "God", O-ians who think the O is all important... "gOd", and D-ians who think the D is all important... "goD". Then on top of that you'll have people like Neo who thinks it makes more sense if you read it backwards... DOG-ians. That may seem a silly example, but as far as I'm concerned, it sums up the problem perfectly. The possibities are endless, and that's just for three letters, so imagine how exponentially worse it can be, and is with the religious books that exist... the Bible and the Quran for instance. You may try to be fair to it, but with something so vague and with so many different things you could focus on IMO you can't fail to introduce your own bias into its interpretation, no matter what you do.
Quote:Sura 13, The Quran:
( 31 ) And if there was any qur'an by which the mountains would be removed or the earth would be broken apart or the dead would be made to speak, [it would be this Qur'an], but to Allah belongs the affair entirely. Then have those who believed not accepted that had Allah willed, He would have guided the people, all of them? And those who disbelieve do not cease to be struck, for what they have done, by calamity - or it will descend near their home - until there comes the promise of Allah. Indeed, Allah does not fail in [His] promise.
If God willed; we'll be one in no time. But we won't:
Quote:Sura 11, The Quran:
( 118 ) And if your Lord had willed, He could have made mankind one community; but they will not cease to differ.
( 119 ) Except whom your Lord has given mercy, and for that He created them. But the word of your Lord is to be fulfilled that, "I will surely fill Hell with jinn and men all together."
We won't unite. But we gotta try our best before we leave life; anyways.
Quote: But the difference between Christianity and Islam, is that with Islam, these beliefs actually result in murder, torture, and terrorism on a massive scale. Christianity produces it's fair share of suffering in the world, but nowhere near on the scale of Islam. As I said, I have no idea what possible good you can see in it.
Currently; only.
But did you hear about the glory days of Christianity; when it emptied the Americas, Inquisition of the Moors in Spain; Crusaded Arabia; Manufactured the Rack; Wheeling; and so?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquisition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_co...tec_Empire
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In this age though; did you ever watch the brutal mexican drug clashes? Narcos butcher Mexicans more brutally than ISIS; btw. I really think that some ISIS members are Narcos in disguise.
Point is; Christian countries are not in "piece". Just 80 years ago; they killed 60 Million people in 2 world wars. And the third is coming; mark my words. By the hands of people like Kim and Trump; if you ask me. Non-Muslims.
Countries which were Christian; are just taking a break before the next showdown:
https://thebulletin.org/timeline
(October 22, 2017 at 5:49 pm)Joods Wrote: We are both entitled to our opinions here. And you and I and every other member are free to challenge and debate those opinions. We should try to be adult-like and civil when doing so, but emotions get in the way and that doesn't always happen.
You have my word; I'll try my best and hopefully will.