RE: What would you do if you found out God existed
November 2, 2017 at 7:50 am
(This post was last modified: November 2, 2017 at 8:08 am by Captain_Nemo.)
(November 2, 2017 at 6:51 am)Khemikal Wrote: If you want to talk about love..fine, let;s talk about love. If you want to talk about free will, fine, let;s talk about free will. If you want to talk about an objective reality, fine..lets talk about an objective reality.
However, if you want to talk about fairies and ghosts and torture chambers......then what do fairies and ghosts and torture chambers have to do with any of the above?
Ever heard of a simile, comparison and such?
Let's say there is a person who is dumb as a donkey, nobody knows how dumb a donkey really is or if the dumbness of all donkeys is equal and still You would not discourage anybody from using expressions of this kind. If I were to say that You are dumb as a donkey, You would not argue that using a comparison is like talking about faries. If You are unable to grasp a point of a figure of speech, You shouldn't try to convince people that You know what the given is trying to accomplish. Have You ever seen a person who would be ready to give their life just to talk about faries? Isn't it obvious that the point must be lying in something completely different?
With religious images their implications are greater and can benefit more people.
Let's make an assumption just for the need of this forum, since its so atheistic. Let's assume there is no heaven and no hell.
Even in such a case the value of a soul, mind, conciousness is so great (potentialy if treated correctly) that there is no better way then to use exactly the same image to show a person how they should treat their own inner cosmos.
There are two motivators one is fear and the other is love, just use both to the maximum and You can be sure that You cannot squeeze out more out of Yourself.
As said in previous posts, most people just want to justify their lazyness and never use anything like a spiritual GYM. They build images about genetically transmited traits that would allow them to accept their dumbness. Things like inteligence are inherited genetically to such people. At the same time philosophers like John Locke who would investigate the difference between trained inteligence and inherited traits have to leave their country, because they are touching a sensitive topic.
It's like a chemical aparatus that connects many different parts to put out a chemical at the end which is beneficial. Humanity has been building this aparatus for centuries. It is not just that easy to build a newer better one. Look at the amount of people on antidepressants and the amount of people with sleeping disorders who take sleeping pills. The amount of people who are obese and suffer from depression. The amount of divorces.
If making a step back from religious world views is so beneficial why don't You show evidence on the level of society that prooves that unmotivated, depressed people are better building stones for a happy society.
So of course I want to talk about all the above, the only difference is that I am ready to use any idiolect, any kind of words as long as I am able to express a point in a precise way, You on the other hand are not ready to use anything else besides the words that have a positive connotation in Your active vocabulary.
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It's as if there was a branch of knowledge like mathematics and You do not want to use numbers as they have been used for centuries, because You call arabic numbers faries, insisting that only Your system of numeration, that is in no way better is the only right one.
It does not matter if You say x=2 or z=2 if a function is expressed as y=ax+b or y=az+b and x=z.
Or if somebody where to express an idea in German You would not dare say that the idea is wrong just because it was expressed in a different language.
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It's a disgrace for the human species, we are just falling.